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Didn't compare it quality wise. Compared the tone, the satire, and of course the director

ok, i took it the wrong way...but now you have me curious: how are you comparing them in tone and satire?...
 

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ok, i took it the wrong way...but now you have me curious: how are you comparing them in tone and satire?...

They're both satires for one. Robocop is a satire of excess of the 80s and military proliferation, the justice system, action movies, and corporations. Robocop 2 is the same but also has the extra satire of sequels, movie studios, and violence.

Starship troopers is satirizing fascism, the military, advertising, product placement, and the very pro war attitude

Starship Troopers: One of the Most Misunderstood Movies Ever

And of course they have the same director
 

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They're both satires for one. Robocop is a satire of excess of the 80s and military proliferation, the justice system, action movies, and corporations. Robocop 2 is the same but also has the extra satire of sequels, movie studios, and violence.

Starship troopers is satirizing fascism, the military, advertising, product placement, and the very pro war attitude

Starship Troopers: One of the Most Misunderstood Movies Ever

And of course they have the same director

i never looked at robocop as satire, but i can see where you coming from...
 

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i never looked at robocop as satire, but i can see where you coming from...

Verhoeven said its satire breh

After a 10-year absence, Paul Verhoeven has returned to feature filmmaking with “Elle.” The controversial filmmaker’s latest has been widely acclaimed since premiering at Cannes earlier this year, and in the leadup to its imminent theatrical release he’s had the chance to talk about such earlier works as “RoboCop” and “Total Recall.” Both films have recently been remade, and Verhoeven has a theory as to why these new takes were unsuccessful: “They take these somewhat absurd stories and make them much too serious.”

“I think that is a mistake,” he continues in an interview with Collider. “Both those movies needed the distance of satire or comedy to situate it for audiences. Playing it straight without any humour is a problem and not an improvement.” Verhoeven’s films have long been noted for their stylized depictions of extreme violence, though his tongue-in-cheek sense of humor has sometimes been misinterpreted or unnoticed.


Paul Verhoeven Reveals Why the ‘RoboCop’ and ‘Total Recall’ Remakes Failed
 

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Verhoeven said its satire breh

After a 10-year absence, Paul Verhoeven has returned to feature filmmaking with “Elle.” The controversial filmmaker’s latest has been widely acclaimed since premiering at Cannes earlier this year, and in the leadup to its imminent theatrical release he’s had the chance to talk about such earlier works as “RoboCop” and “Total Recall.” Both films have recently been remade, and Verhoeven has a theory as to why these new takes were unsuccessful: “They take these somewhat absurd stories and make them much too serious.”

“I think that is a mistake,” he continues in an interview with Collider. “Both those movies needed the distance of satire or comedy to situate it for audiences. Playing it straight without any humour is a problem and not an improvement.” Verhoeven’s films have long been noted for their stylized depictions of extreme violence, though his tongue-in-cheek sense of humor has sometimes been misinterpreted or unnoticed.


Paul Verhoeven Reveals Why the ‘RoboCop’ and ‘Total Recall’ Remakes Failed
They both failed because the scripts are stupid
 

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Ask any car enthusiast, the original Fast and Furious was hot garbage in terms of accuracy. It's not that the shyt was over the top and impossible like the later movies, it was just campy and forced. But pull up to a car meet and start reciting lines and everyone knows the whole movie like the back of their hand.
 

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Verhoeven said its satire breh

After a 10-year absence, Paul Verhoeven has returned to feature filmmaking with “Elle.” The controversial filmmaker’s latest has been widely acclaimed since premiering at Cannes earlier this year, and in the leadup to its imminent theatrical release he’s had the chance to talk about such earlier works as “RoboCop” and “Total Recall.” Both films have recently been remade, and Verhoeven has a theory as to why these new takes were unsuccessful: “They take these somewhat absurd stories and make them much too serious.”

“I think that is a mistake,” he continues in an interview with Collider. “Both those movies needed the distance of satire or comedy to situate it for audiences. Playing it straight without any humour is a problem and not an improvement.” Verhoeven’s films have long been noted for their stylized depictions of extreme violence, though his tongue-in-cheek sense of humor has sometimes been misinterpreted or unnoticed.


Paul Verhoeven Reveals Why the ‘RoboCop’ and ‘Total Recall’ Remakes Failed

that's not calling robocop satire....that's just saying they needed a lil humor to break the serious tone/flow of the movie, which robocop had....but it wasnt satire....starship troopers, yes...robocop, no....
 
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