more mummys tested and shows prominent east african origin..

[Camile.Bidan]

"Haplogroup I is found at moderate to low frequencies in East Africa, Europe, West Asia and South Asia (Fernandes 2012)."

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The above statement, upon which assumptions of MtDNA origin must be predicated, does not presuppose MtDNA is "more Arabic". No one asked about you but MtDNA L3 is one of the most common African haplogroups. It is not a "Fulani" haplogroup and has nothing itself to do with them. The haploroup is not limited to East Africans and is historically black in origin, but is said to have originated there.

It makes sense that the Eyptians would have Haplogroup I if they were East African, which is what @Kemet_Rocky is saying.

@Kemet_Rocky If nothing else we know the Egyptians were not cacs. Cacs do not have L3 branch haplogroups.

L3d-5, my specific haplogroup, is rare in West Africa. At least that was the impression I got from my test report. Honestly, I got that it was connected to Fula through google searches. I definitely could be wrong about that. I didn't know who the fulani were until I got my test results and I tried to trace it back to africa.


I wouldn't doubt that MtDNA I originated in West African, because judging from my own tests, North and East Africans seem to have come from a mixed origin.
Although, I carry a west africa MtDNA marker, I am very mixed, and, autosomally, I am very distant from Africans. I am only close, if you can call it close, to East Africans. How can I be close to East Africans and North Africans? When I have no relationship to them?

The only answer that I can come with is that East Africans are of a Mixed Heritage and they are NOT Fully "African". They certainly don't look fully African to me. Egyptian culture seems to have been built around imports from Asia: namely Cattle, Horses, Horse Drawn Carts and Wheat farming. These cultural imports were probably associated with immigrants. Egyptians were, like modern day North and East africans, a mix of Asian (west or central asian) and Native African, and that is what most DNA tests of African mummies have shown IIRC.

East and North Africans have Neanderthal Genes and that is impossible without Admixture event with West Asians because Neanderthals never made it to africa. So clearly there have been Admixture events in North and East Africa. Immigrants brought MtDNA I to Africa. It's not unreasonable at all.

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

L3d-5, my specific haplogroup, is rare in West Africa. At least that was the impression I got from my test report. Honestly, I got that it was connected to Fula through google searches. I definitely could be wrong about that. I didn't know who the fulani were until I got my test results and I tried to trace it back to africa.


I wouldn't doubt that MtDNA I originated in West African, because judging from my own tests, North and East Africans seem to have come from a mixed origin.
Although, I carry a west africa MtDNA marker, I am very mixed, and, autosomally, I am very distant from Africans. I am only close, if you can call it close, to East Africans. How can I be close to East Africans and North Africans? When I have no relationship to them?

The only answer that I can come with is that East Africans are of a Mixed Heritage and they are NOT Fully "African". They certainly don't look fully African to me. Egyptian culture seems to have been built around imports from Asia: namely Cattle, Horses, Horse Drawn Carts and Wheat farming. These cultural imports were probably associated with immigrants. Egyptians were, like modern day North and East africans, a mix of Asian (west or central asian) and Native African, and that is what most DNA tests of African mummies have shown IIRC.

East and North Africans have Neanderthal Genes and that is impossible without Admixture event with West Asians because Neanderthals never made it to africa. So clearly there have been Admixture events in North and East Africa. Immigrants brought MtDNA I to Africa. It's not unreasonable at all.

this is dnatribes isnt it?..

hold up give me some time to find the studies to debunk these claims of east africans come from a "mixed" origin..

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

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hold up im going to edit this later with backed up evidence, and a sumerization of what i said..

 

[Camile.Bidan]

Every study you quoted is 12 years old or older. A lot of things have changed since then bro.

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/01/29/1313787111.abstract

Abstract

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The history of southern Africa involved interactions between indigenous hunter–gatherers and a range of populations that moved into the region. Here we use genome-wide genetic data to show that there are at least two admixture events in the history of Khoisan populations (southern African hunter–gatherers and pastoralists who speak non-Bantu languages with click consonants). One involved populations related to Niger–Congo-speaking African populations, and the other introduced ancestry most closely related to west Eurasian (European or Middle Eastern) populations. We date this latter admixture event to ∼900–1,800 y ago and show that it had the largest demographic impact in Khoisan populations that speak Khoe–Kwadi languages. A similar signal of west Eurasian ancestry is present throughout eastern Africa. In particular, we also find evidence for two admixture events in the history of Kenyan, Tanzanian, and Ethiopian populations, the earlier of which involved populations related to west Eurasians and which we date to ∼2,700–3,300 y ago. We reconstruct the allele frequencies of the putative west Eurasian population in eastern Africa and show that this population is a good proxy for the west Eurasian ancestry in southern Africa. The most parsimonious explanation for these findings is that west Eurasian ancestry entered southern Africa indirectly through eastern Africa.

Ethiopian Genetic Diversity Reveals Linguistic Stratification and Complex Influences on the Ethiopian Gene Pool
http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297(12)00271-6

Luca Pagani et al.

Humans and their ancestors have traversed the Ethiopian landscape for millions of years, and present-day Ethiopians show great cultural, linguistic, and historical diversity, which makes them essential for understanding African variability and human origins. We genotyped 235 individuals from ten Ethiopian and two neighboring (South Sudanese and Somali) populations on an Illumina Omni 1M chip. Genotypes were compared with published data from several African and non-African populations. Principal-component and STRUCTURE-like analyses confirmed substantial genetic diversity both within and between populations, and revealed a match between genetic data and linguistic affiliation. Using comparisons with African and non-African reference samples in 40-SNP genomic windows, we identified “African” and “non-African” haplotypic components for each Ethiopian individual. The non-African component, which includes the SLC24A5 allele associated with light skin pigmentation in Europeans, may represent gene flow into Africa, which we estimate to have occurred ∼3 thousand years ago (kya). The African component was found to be more similar to populations inhabiting the Levant rather than the Arabian Peninsula, but the principal route for the expansion out of Africa ∼60 kya remains unresolved. Linkage-disequilibrium decay with genomic distance was less rapid in both the whole genome and the African component than in southern African samples, suggesting a less ancient history for Ethiopian populations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24162011?dopt=Abstract

Genome Biol Evol. 2013 Oct 25. [Epub ahead of print]

Apparent Variation in Neanderthal Admixture among African Populations is Consistent with Gene Flow from non-African Populations.

Wang S, Lachance J, Tishkoff S, Hey J, Xing J.

Abstract

Recent studies have found evidence of introgression from Neanderthals into modern humans outside of sub-Saharan Africa. Given the geographic range of Neanderthals, the findings have been interpreted as evidence of gene exchange between Neanderthals and the modern humans descended from the Out-of-Africa (OOA) migration. Here we examine an alternative interpretation in which the introgression occurred earlier within Africa, between ancestors or relatives of Neanderthals and a subset of African modern humans who were the ancestors of those involved in the OOA migration. Under the alternative model, if the population structure among present-day Africans predates the OOA migration, we might find some African populations show a signal of Neanderthal introgression while others do not. To test this alternative model we compiled a whole-genome data set including 38 sub-Saharan Africans from eight populations and 25 non-African individuals from five populations. We assessed differences in the amount of Neanderthal-like SNP alleles among these populations and observed up to 1.5% difference in the number of Neanderthal-like alleles among African populations. Further analyses suggest that these differences are likely due to recent non-African admixture in these populations. After accounting for recent non-African admixture, our results do not support the alternative model of older (e.g., >100 kya) admixture between modern human and Neanderthal-like hominid within Africa.

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

Every study you quoted is 12 years old or older. A lot of things have changed since then bro.

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/01/29/1313787111.abstract

Ethiopian Genetic Diversity Reveals Linguistic Stratification and Complex Influences on the Ethiopian Gene Pool
http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297(12)00271-6

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24162011?dopt=Abstract

bruh i read this on deinekes blog..

this doesn't suggest that east africans have a "mixed" origin..

that doesn't even make sense, it still exemplifies the admixture from roughly 2000-3000 yrs ago of less significant admixture..

but yeah, i need to get to a pc soon so i can debunk this..