More bad Xbox1 news: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ESRAM life long bottleneck

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Gaf is full of vague bs rumors, it's disingenuous to say otherwise.
Did you bother to read what I posted?? Gaf is a forum where people all over can post w/e they want, the thread if proven to be false is locked and closed. Sites with bad reputation such as ***** or w/e are often worthy of bans if a user links them. Saying "gaf is a site full of bs rumors" is disingenuous of itself because again, respected people such as devs, journalists and industry insiders post there. Hell on here we have threads created almost daily with links to rogue websites championing xbox yet I don't see no one claiming thecoli is full of bs.
 

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So right now everything that's being discussed on the internet about the Xbox One crashing and having network problems with XBL etc is just plain old lies? :popcorn:

I don't know and you don't either. What we do know is that software is always buggy during developement and both companies are crunching to get it together in time for launch.

What all these "rumors" have in common is that the "insider" is totaly devoid of any responsibilty for the outcome.

The rumors are basically "Xbox one is all fukked up, or it might be fixed before launch"

So if the console comes out and there are some problems(which there will be with both consoles if we are being honest with ourselves) they can claim credit for it. If there are no problems they can say "well they fixed them in time". The whole shyt is bogus, and I can't understand how so many people fall into this shyt:snoop:

Also you have to think about motives. Why would a person risk their career to leak this info to these supposed "insiders"? Developing a entire new console there will always be problems, why aren't we hearing a play by play of sony's problems? Why do these same insiders have such detailed info on the insides of Microsoft but not sony?

A rational person would look at all this and at least be skeptical, but you dudes don't seem to be rational right now.
 

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Did you bother to read what I posted?? Gaf is a forum where people all over can post w/e they want, the thread if proven to be false is locked and closed. Sites with bad reputation such as ***** or w/e are often worthy of bans if a user links them. Saying "gaf is a site full of bs rumors" is disingenuous of itself because again, respected people such as devs, journalists and industry insiders post there. Hell on here we have threads created almost daily with links to rogue websites championing xbox yet I don't see no one claiming thecoli is full of bs.

:comeon:Respected devs journalist and industry insiders have also called the place full of shyt. But y'all don't seem to care about them.
 

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I don't know and you don't either. What we do know is that software is always buggy during developement and both companies are crunching to get it together in time for launch.

What all these "rumors" have in common is that the "insider" is totaly devoid of any responsibilty for the outcome.

The rumors are basically "Xbox one is all fukked up, or it might be fixed before launch"

So if the console comes out and there are some problems(which there will be with both consoles if we are being honest with ourselves) they can claim credit for it. If there are no problems they can say "well they fixed them in time". The whole shyt is bogus, and I can't understand how so many people fall into this shyt:snoop:

Also you have to think about motives. Why would a person risk their career to leak this info to these supposed "insiders"? Developing a entire new console there will always be problems why aren't we hearing a play by play of sony's problem? Why don't these same insiders have such detailed info on the insides of Microsoft but not sony?

A rational person would look at all this and at least be skeptical, but you dudes don't seem to be rational right now.
Bingo! They don't see it because it fits their agenda. But the has been talks of Sony having issues but are they even looking into this no but its there consoles of choice.
 

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I don't know and you don't either. What we do know is that software is always buggy during developement and both companies are crunching to get it together in time for launch.

Right I agree. According to your boy though Microsoft is the biggest software company around therefore problems like these can't arise because again they're a huge company. Fallacies like that shouldn't be tolerated breh.

What all these "rumors" have in common is that the "insider" is totaly devoid of any responsibilty for the outcome.
Did you not read what the poster on Gaf "Famousmortimer" was saying before he posted the blog posts about the Xbox One issues?? He seemed a bit reluctant to go out and just haphazardly drop bombs unverified.

The rumors are basically "Xbox one is all fukked up, or it might be fixed before launch"
Okay?

So if the console comes out and there are some problems(which there will be with both consoles if we are being honest with ourselves) they can claim credit for it. If there are no problems they can say "well they fixed them in time". The whole shyt is bogus, and I can't understand how so many people fall into this shyt:snoop:
What difference does it make if someone claims credit for it?? Brownie points?? if it came out with huge problems and no one talked about it, they'd still get heavy backlash. If they fix it in time good for them but don't try to act like the clairvoyant here on some "You guys don't see the bigger picture!!??".

Also you have to think about motives. Why would a person risk their career to leak this info to these supposed "insiders"? Developing a entire new console there will always be problems why aren't we hearing a play by play of sony's problem? Why don't these same insiders have such detailed info on the insides of Microsoft but not sony?
Why aren't we hearing a play by play of Nintendo's problem?? Why don't these insiders have such detailed info on Nintendo and not Microsoft?? What are you even saying?? Why does someone who's probably working at Microsoft or has connections to them not have info on the competitor?? That's what you're really asking??

A rational person would look at all this and at least be skeptical, but you dudes don't seem to be rational right now.
Skeptical for what? You're skeptical because the rumors and news of this from various sources don't fit your narrative and since you don't like it it's easy to just claim skepticism instead of fanboyism. You say software is buggy and problems happen at launch in one breath and tehn turn around and say you're skeptical now. You're contradicting yourself breh. :snoop:
 

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I am thankful for the problems TrashBox is facing :blessed:
they deserve everything that's happening to them for the 'inventions' of making people pay twice for the internet. DLC & the nickel and diming of gamers everywhere.
Another butthurt sony fan, we have no problems over breh!
 

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Did you bother to read what I posted?? Gaf is a forum where people all over can post w/e they want, the thread if proven to be false is locked and closed. Sites with bad reputation such as ***** or w/e are often worthy of bans if a user links them. Saying "gaf is a site full of bs rumors" is disingenuous of itself because again, respected people such as devs, journalists and industry insiders post there. Hell on here we have threads created almost daily with links to rogue websites championing xbox yet I don't see no one claiming thecoli is full of bs.

I don't give credit to those sites either. Fact of the matter is, if I want to read rumors I'll go to neogaf, I dont take anonymous sources as gospel, that's all. They didn't influence my ps4 or xb1 preorder but the pure ignorance over there is ridiculous. Every xbox thread is just the same shyt regurgitated with gifs thrown in. Somebody posts a rumor, somebody refutes it, then the kids come out to play. It's just funny to me but either way I'll have both systems on launch day.
 

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Bingo! They don't see it because it fits their agenda. But the has been talks of Sony having issues but are they even looking into this no but its there consoles of choice.
Well lets see you guys try to stir up petty quibbles and strech them into conspiracies without no corroboration. Oh the system needs an update at launch? Conspire that the system is not going to play any games without said update and that there are other problems breh.
You guys keep saying "issues Sony are facing" yet never name them. I can bet you for every issue that you earnestly believe Sony has despite you not fukking with rumors, I can show you 2 to 3 more Microsoft is having.
 

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I don't give credit to those sites either. Fact of the matter is, if I want to read rumors I'll go to neogaf, I dont take anonymous sources as gospel, that's all. They didn't influence my ps4 or xb1 preorder but the pure ignorance over there is ridiculous. Every xbox thread is just the same shyt regurgitated with gifs thrown in. Somebody posts a rumor, somebody refutes it, then the kids come out to play. It's just funny to me but either way I'll have both systems on launch day.
Exactly Neogaf is a huge forum so it's likely information goes there first. You don't have to take anonymous source as gospel though but when you have verified sources from all over saying the same thing over and over it kind of causes concern. Anyone can see the writings on the wall breh. The moniker Xbox 180 or Xbox 720(p) isn't a stretch of the truth breh.
 

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I don't know and you don't either. What we do know is that software is always buggy during developement and both companies are crunching to get it together in time for launch.

Right I agree. According to your boy though Microsoft is the biggest software company around therefore problems like these can't arise because again they're a huge company. Fallacies like that shouldn't be tolerated breh.

What all these "rumors" have in common is that the "insider" is totaly devoid of any responsibilty for the outcome.
Did you not read what the poster on Gaf "Famousmortimer" was saying before he posted the blog posts about the Xbox One issues?? He seemed a bit reluctant to go out and just haphazardly drop bombs unverified.

The rumors are basically "Xbox one is all fukked up, or it might be fixed before launch"
Okay?

So if the console comes out and there are some problems(which there will be with both consoles if we are being honest with ourselves) they can claim credit for it. If there are no problems they can say "well they fixed them in time". The whole shyt is bogus, and I can't understand how so many people fall into this shyt:snoop:
What difference does it make if someone claims credit for it?? Brownie points?? if it came out with huge problems and no one talked about it, they'd still get heavy backlash. If they fix it in time good for them but don't try to act like the clairvoyant here on some "You guys don't see the bigger picture!!??".

Also you have to think about motives. Why would a person risk their career to leak this info to these supposed "insiders"? Developing a entire new console there will always be problems why aren't we hearing a play by play of sony's problem? Why don't these same insiders have such detailed info on the insides of Microsoft but not sony?
Why aren't we hearing a play by play of Nintendo's problem?? Why don't these insiders have such detailed info on Nintendo and not Microsoft?? What are you even saying?? Why does someone who's probably working at Microsoft or has connections to them not have info on the competitor?? That's what you're really asking??

A rational person would look at all this and at least be skeptical, but you dudes don't seem to be rational right now.
Skeptical for what? You're skeptical because the rumors and news of this from various sources don't fit your narrative and since you don't like it it's easy to just claim skepticism instead of fanboyism. You say software is buggy and problems happen at launch in one breath and tehn turn around and say you're skeptical now. You're contradicting yourself breh. :snoop:


You have no idea what it take to develop software and a Operating system. There will always be debugging etc. They just said that shyt to make more it dramatic and believable and yall fell for it hook line and sinker. How is that going to ruin his rep if it can't be proven either or? He strung along gaf for an hour for this supposedly big news. When it drop it was a dud! So him and cohorts keep pushing until it gain traction the with the fanboys. Then Cboats retarded ass said something than all of sudden its confirmed blah blah blah. If they really wanted to leak something they should have leaked video of it crashing and running app and crashing when swithing into a game, Now that proof.

@MeachTheMonster his reply was for you but since he replied within your post it will not notify you.
 
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