Moonlight reviews – "devastating drama is vital portrait of black gay masculinity"

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Then why do you get mad when black feminists do the same damn thing as your doing now? Supporting black movies they like and talking down on ones they don't?
 

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Not normally into these kinda films but it looks decent :ehh:

I can see where Coates is coming from in his comments, albeit I feel they were hamfisted words :patrice:. Majority of us are invested in one image/type of masculinity - being the beacon of physical strength, and almost calculating rationale among other things. Virtually no feminine traits. Which is fine if you fit that mold, but if you don't, then there is no representative for you and you're demonized and seen as either weak or gay. Which is also part of the problem IMO - our framing of homosexuality as inherently a negative is what demonizes and subsequently ostracizes those people from our community, and they cannot exactly seek solace in an LGBT community that is just as racist as everywhere else (see most black LGBT figures' comments about "white gays" and you'll see that they are heavily critical of an LGBT movement that silence black voices similarly). So where do they go?

So I can see why this film would be framed as important. I don't know about the "best take on black male masculinity" but it is hopefully a nuanced one that is free of any kind of agenda, gay or otherwise. In any event, I don't believe in a gay agenda anyway, simply because you can't make somebody gay and the fact that gay people (and indeed trans people) exist in our communities is something that one must accept sooner or later, lest we remain eternally divided.
 

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Not normally into these kinda films but it looks decent :ehh:

I can see where Coates is coming from in his comments, albeit I feel they were hamfisted words :patrice:. Majority of us are invested in one image/type of masculinity - being the beacon of physical strength, and almost calculating rationale among other things. Virtually no feminine traits. Which is fine if you fit that mold, but if you don't, then there is no representative for you and you're demonized and seen as either weak or gay. Which is also part of the problem IMO - our framing of homosexuality as inherently a negative is what demonizes and subsequently ostracizes those people from our community, and they cannot exactly seek solace in an LGBT community that is just as racist as everywhere else (see most black LGBT figures' comments about "white gays" and you'll see that they are heavily critical of an LGBT movement that silence black voices similarly). So where do they go?

So I can see why this film would be framed as important. I don't know about the "best take on black male masculinity" but it is hopefully a nuanced one that is free of any kind of agenda, gay or otherwise. In any event, I don't believe in a gay agenda anyway, simply because you can't make somebody gay and the fact that gay people (and indeed trans people) exist in our communities is something that one must accept sooner or later, lest we remain eternally divided.

Black America has been psychologically harmed by white supremacy. Black men feel emasculated. They can't protect themselves, female loved ones etc.

Projecting hyper masculinity is a coping mechanism. Any narrative against that is a threat.
 

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Black America has been psychologically harmed by white supremacy. Black men feel emasculated. They can't protect themselves, female loved ones etc.

Projecting hyper masculinity is a coping mechanism. Any narrative against that is a threat.
Indeed, it's the same here in UK, albeit on a micro level considering our population here is small.
 

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Saw this movie about 2 weeks ago at a film festival. Enjoyed it a lot. Although the coli would have had a field day with the type of women in attendance.

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As for the movie, Solid character work. Very funny in places and thoughtful in others. For those of you too sensitive. Their isn't actually other than a short kiss any 'gay' stuff in the movie, In terms of images of black masculinity it was interesting to see how the main character started and how he ended up. Playing up to certain images and stereotypes that a lot of US black men especially, fall into sometimes. Even when they don't want to, but feel they have to.

I'd say it's worth watching.
 
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Want to see the film but dunno where it's being played at
 

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Seriously, what is that? I hear some black women online crying about it but nobody can define it for me.
It's just another word to attack the Black alpha male. Just like during slavery, they'd kill or rape the slave that was the most masculine, had pride etc. Black feminists want to promote bytch nikkas as the standard. In times of war these nikkas ain't going to do shyt but braid hair and sing kumbaya. Docile just like massa like them.
 
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