Monique - lets boycott Netflix for Racism and Sexism

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U sound silly Memphis bleek been rapping since 96 been on mad tours n classic songs sold more n has more albums than 21 savage. Should he b getting what 21 get per show in 2018 for all the "work" he put in?

FUCC NO. This is hollywood not a 9-5. Fucc ya work history. If u not hot, cant sell tickets can't bring intrests not relevant then they off you. Don't matter what u did in the past.

nikkas dropping all these fake stats. "She's a queen of comedy" nikka that was a comedy special not an actual title or accomploshment lol. If she was busy that day they would've got someone else.

I haven't heard of or seen Monique in like 10 years. N I never even wondered wtf she was at.

On top of that she's not even funny. Her whole career was about being fat. Same ass punchlines for every joke...."These Skinny bytches!" Being a black women is really the least of why she's losing.

Where was she at for all the other issues that was popping off these last few years? We supposed to be in the crib bored because some cacs wanna pay u more than what most nikkas make in a year lol.

She should take whatever they was gonna give her cuz she ICE COLD out here. I wouldn't even go to a free Monique show in 2018.

so...much....ether...

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Monique is a good comic. I have enjoyed her work over the years. However, she should make a better product or blame the public for not responding to her lackluster product if she's wants more payout Netflix isn't obligated to pay her more than people will buy.
 

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U sound silly Memphis bleek been rapping since 96 been on mad tours n classic songs sold more n has more albums than 21 savage. Should he b getting what 21 get per show in 2018 for all the "work" he put in?

FUCC NO. This is hollywood not a 9-5. Fucc ya work history. If u not hot, cant sell tickets can't bring intrests not relevant then they off you. Don't matter what u did in the past.

nikkas dropping all these fake stats. "She's a queen of comedy" nikka that was a comedy special not an actual title or accomploshment lol. If she was busy that day they would've got someone else.

I haven't heard of or seen Monique in like 10 years. N I never even wondered wtf she was at.

On top of that she's not even funny. Her whole career was about being fat. Same ass punchlines for every joke...."These Skinny bytches!" Being a black women is really the least of why she's losing.

Where was she at for all the other issues that was popping off these last few years? We supposed to be in the crib bored because some cacs wanna pay u more than what most nikkas make in a year lol.

She should take whatever they was gonna give her cuz she ICE COLD out here. I wouldn't even go to a free Monique show in 2018.
Got damn:picard: lol

But you're so right though. Imagine Mike Jones or Lil Flip trying to get people to boycott hiphop because they can't get Kendrick Lamar money. Monique needed to start over and grind to get herself back to be able to do a Netflix special for more money. I mean the fact that Netflix even offered her half a mil in 2018 is amazing. How you complaining about being blackballed and then turn down a major offer years later? The netflix standup special is a big deal now and she's stupid if she doesn't go through with it.. I hope she learned a valuable lesson after this shyt.
 

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her and her husband are living on another planet man...they won that oscar and thought they were gonna live like oil tyc00ns


That is the question, tho.
We don't know of any white Oscar winners made to bow down or be treated like shyt for standing up for the worth of their draw in recent memory. Every Oscar winner that is black that is not gay or denzel. They have a bonafide effective war of attrition or flat out witch hunt bonfire tiki torch blackball rally for. Like what white female Oscar winner is shyt on like Monique and for what. What white Oscar recent winner that is a male is shyt on for protecting his draw like Terrence Howard. Plus had another black actor given precedent over them as well. Like real talk, what did Monique and Howard really do that warranted they be black balled. When Incomparison what white actor or actress was black balled with an Oscar and if they were. I am sure there are cases of false equivalence in the case of comparison for Monique and Howard. Howard emasculated himself and preys on criminal rnb past greats and hiphop culture with Daniels. Yet Monique could not continue in that manner, because Daniels and Oprah black balled her. When originally Monique is who had the star power and performance to create the oscar credit for all three in film. For Oprah I believe it was her film company earning credit for an Oscar. I could be wrong.
yet it has been so long since she was black balled. even the facts about this are displaced concretely from my memory. So just in that we have proof that her being blackballed was effective to ruin her draw in sabotage. Now granted this thread starts off with a shaderoom link that has two million views. so we don't know the real details and need the Monique link that gives the real. Yet on the surface this is a good convo about what being blackballed is and how the victims have to rebuild a life they never tore down and someone else ruined.

I mean I live this type of life. Where you stood up for what is actually really really right. So I understand on a surface level what Monique has endured with no outlets and limited resources. Which are a result of being blackballed.

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Sorry Monique but you on your own :hubie:

I'm eating good off netflix :mjgrin:


Seriously what and how do people nav Netflix?
I find looking at their selection a waste of time and to robust full of I wasted my Time. Rather than actually entertaining me. I like the fact it is an outlet for people but they need to market the selections that are not the quote unquote shyt a lot better to keep me interested. I own all the media I find worth owning. So I don't need them for a backlog. Except for here and there and in that I don't think they do a good job of showing you around the service to warrant paying for it. Literally, I find it to be just an icon on my tv that is kinda worthless. Maybe you can give me some selections that make it have more value.

Literally gantz is the only thing I found worth suggesting Netflix for and that is anime most people don't like in general. So maybe you can suggest some shyt worth trying out.



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In and out of Hollywood, low balling Blackfolks is nothing new, thus why I'm on her side
How many highly rated tv/radio shows with Black members get such low advertising dollars, how many Blackfolks get lower salaries for similar work in other industries

Harvey Weinstein dun confirm how much damage a petty and vindictive resourceful person could have on a career within an industry that's about maintaining the status quo for personal gains

Control the media, you control how people think.
Being blackballed, with no media push, while most folks think that your relevance is due to whether they heard you advertised on the same platforms that are boycotting you, is/will be an uphill battle
:snoop: She could have just Shut the fukk up taken the money created a bomb ass special and then Netflix come asking for new shyt charge them more!!! that's how it works!!!! :comeon: Half a milly upfront isnt THAT bad...:why:
hmmm...if we believe her version. Netflix came to her and attended two of her standup shows before going into negotiations
So if they recognized her skills and accomplishments, then why offer her such a comparable difference?
Got damn:picard: lol

But you're so right though. Imagine Mike Jones or Lil Flip trying to get people to boycott hiphop because they can't get Kendrick Lamar money. Monique needed to start over and grind to get herself back to be able to do a Netflix special for more money. I mean the fact that Netflix even offered her half a mil in 2018 is amazing. How you complaining about being blackballed and then turn down a major offer years later? The netflix standup special is a big deal now and she's stupid if she doesn't go through with it.. I hope she learned a valuable lesson after this shyt.

lol. Now we comparing Lil Flip and Mike Jones to a comedian who was able to flip her career into her a sitcom, talkshow, movies, and awards? all so that you could cape for Netflix
The arrogance of you talmbowt she should learn a lesson, while in the middle of the Harvey Weinstein situation, is sad
 

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Like I said though breh, the Oscar ITSELF doesn’t get you a big payday. It’s the Oscar PLUS your ability to remain relevant.

Lou Gossett Jr has an Oscar. He ain’t gonna get no where NEAR top dollar to star in a movie. Same thing with that white guy with the big nose who won an Oscar for the Pianist. He ain’t gonna go to Netflix and demand $10 million to star in a Netflix original movie.

An Oscar HELPS you in negotiating, but it’s not the deciding factor.

Monique could probably use her Oscar to negotiate $1 million from 500k, but she’s not talking about that. She’s taking about getting Amy Shumer money. Amy Shumer Don’t have no damn Oscar. She gets paid because she’s white AND popular. Her movies do numbers. She has an established following. So Netflix is going to make back on their investment through views and new subscribers.

The number of people who would be willing to subscribe to Netflix JUST for a Monique special isn’t worth $11 million. If they slapped “Oscar winning Comedy Legend Monique Returns!” On all of their marketing and really went hard for her then it could do decent numbers. But again, they aren’t going to be $11 million dollar investment numbers.

All we’re doing is speculating so all of this is nothing more than healthy debate. But if I were Monique and I REALLY wanted to get my career cracking again I’d try to actually partner with Netflix. Sacrifice a little of the upfront money for a package deal that includes the new special and a new series. Netflix is HOT for original content right now. If the new special slays and does better than expected then she could flip that for a Master Of None style 10 episode comedy series that explores the trials and tribulations of a black woman trying to make it in the comedy industry. She could get Sommore, Sheryl Underwood, and some of her Cohorts from the Comic View/Def Comedy Jam days to co-star. Women having their stories told is BIG in Hollywood right now, she could ride that wave all the way to bank.

Think about it. Netflix JUST dropped Louis CK. Aziz Ansari, whether he’s guilty of sexual assault or not (he’s not) will probably be in hiding for awhile. Monique could step RIGHT into that void. If the show was even HALF as good as Master Of None she could be the toast of the town. Think pieces would be written about the episode where Monique’s character (let’s call her Lawanda) was turned down for a job because she was deemed too big and dark. Women would EAT that shyt up.


I am all for what you are saying.
Realistically, I agree in part to the get back on it.
Yet, being blackballed is hard because she has to start over and is not the reason why and has to take less.
Now past that I agree...
You go win one for the gipper.
or whatever white rally cry they made up to mask all their narcissism. I get that.
Yet and still, I also been the guy who was number one and now I am not and it is not my fault. People are downplaying monique's success and talent and her plight. Now does she have to move on, yes.
Yet, I know how hard that is given the situation.
You are right tho,...she has to just do.
Granted they took away her you're the best and it isn't right you don't get to have your you're the best. Yet Monique has to still do her best and put her best foot forward.

shyt is bogus.
Yet you just have to do.

It is a shame they ruined you.
Yet, in this whole process.
You have to realize and break apart from your occupation. Even if it is your passion and be you. Do it for you and then maybe or maybe not you get back to being what type of draw you were. If not, who cares....your job is not wholely you and now you learn the lesson of being you and not your job.
This whole shyt is a battle of her ego and just doing.
You already won, so just do.
What matters does Monique know she is a champion.
Or the job.

Just do, sometimes you can not worry about the job or pay.
Even if everyone around you is a millionaire or you used to be one.
Just do.


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That is the question, tho.
We don't know of any white Oscar winners made to bow down or be treated like shyt for standing up for the worth of their draw in recent memory. Every Oscar winner that is black that is not gay or denzel. They have a bonafide effective war of attrition or flat out witch hunt bonfire tiki torch blackball rally for. Like what white female Oscar winner is shyt on like Monique and for what. What white Oscar recent winner that is a male is shyt on for protecting his draw like Terrence Howard. Plus had another black actor given precedent over them as well. Like real talk, what did Monique and Howard really do that warranted they be black balled. When Incomparison what white actor or actress was black balled with an Oscar and if they were. I am sure there are cases of false equivalence in the case of comparison for Monique and Howard. Howard emasculated himself and preys on criminal rnb past greats and hiphop culture with Daniels. Yet Monique could not continue in that manner, because Daniels and Oprah black balled her. When originally Monique is who had the star power and performance to create the oscar credit for all three in film. For Oprah I believe it was her film company earning credit for an Oscar. I could be wrong.
yet it has been so long since she was black balled. even the facts about this are displaced concretely from my memory. So just in that we have proof that her being blackballed was effective to ruin her draw in sabotage. Now granted this thread starts off with a shaderoom link that has two million views. so we don't know the real details and need the Monique link that gives the real. Yet on the surface this is a good convo about what being blackballed is and how the victims have to rebuild a life they never tore down and someone else ruined.

I mean I live this type of life. Where you stood up for what is actually really really right. So I understand on a surface level what Monique has endured with no outlets and limited resources. Which are a result of being blackballed.

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Monique is not being black balled, she is taking more control over her career to a level where certain producers or talent buyer are willing to indulge in
 
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