Money Williams- 2023-2024 Detroit Pistons Thread

Expectations

  • Another top 10 pick

    Votes: 21 53.8%
  • Late lotto

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • Play-in

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Playoff team

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NormanConnors

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What's your issue with Cade? I know you talk about him not being a pg but it seems more than that.

No issue with Cade other than that and getting that knee right. Anything else is just a light efficiency jab. He's had a nice amount of 19 to get 17, 20 to get 20, 30 to get 30 type of games. But I understand that though at the moment.
 

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No issue with Cade other than that and getting that knee right. Anything else is just a light efficiency jab. He's had a nice amount of 19 to get 17, 20 to get 20, 30 to get 30 type of games. But I understand that though at the moment.
Gotcha. He's had a few of those, but I think at this point the narrative is stronger than the reality. He shooting 46% overall and almost 36% from 3 so his percentages have come up a nice bit in what's equivalent to his 2nd year. He still needs to get to the line more more, so he either gotta sell the could more or be more of a bully and initiate more contact. Finishing around the basket in traffic is still his biggest issue to me. Gotta get some more craft in the paint to get the shyt he wants off. But all in all I like his development. I still agree with you that I want to see him less ball dominant so he can stay more aggressive as a scorer. Ausar tightens his handle and develops that jumper a lil more and he should get some on ball duties imo next season.
 

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Gotcha. He's had a few of those, but I think at this point the narrative is stronger than the reality. He shooting 46% overall and almost 36% from 3 so his percentages have come up a nice bit in what's equivalent to his 2nd year. He still needs to get to the line more more, so he either gotta sell the could more or be more of a bully and initiate more contact. Finishing around the basket in traffic is still his biggest issue to me. Gotta get some more craft in the paint to get the shyt he wants off. But all in all I like his development. I still agree with you that I want to see him less ball dominant so he can stay more aggressive as a scorer. Ausar tightens his handle and develops that jumper a lil more and he should get some on ball duties imo next season.
I agree with all of this/Spot-on, especially with getting to the line more to put less stress on shot attempts. Def will need that element for the playoffs and etc too. Those in the trenches points :myman:
 

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I’m ready to put Ivey and Duren on the trading block. They can’t even get empty stats against tanking teams.
 

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Gotcha. He's had a few of those, but I think at this point the narrative is stronger than the reality. He shooting 46% overall and almost 36% from 3 so his percentages have come up a nice bit in what's equivalent to his 2nd year. He still needs to get to the line more more, so he either gotta sell the could more or be more of a bully and initiate more contact. Finishing around the basket in traffic is still his biggest issue to me. Gotta get some more craft in the paint to get the shyt he wants off. But all in all I like his development. I still agree with you that I want to see him less ball dominant so he can stay more aggressive as a scorer. Ausar tightens his handle and develops that jumper a lil more and he should get some on ball duties imo next season.
In regards to the fouls drawn, that’s not goin to be dictated by Cades game. The refs are the gatekeepers of who gets the whistles. The association is so bias when it comes to this it’s ridiculous. I just watch the refs take over the rockets Mavs game to make it competitive. How the fukk does Jalen green have more 4 fouls in the first half. He has more fouls than free throws. He literally leads the league in drive penetration and can’t buy a call. He should be average long as many free throws as SGA or Lebron but like I said the refs dictate that.
 

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I’m ready to put Ivey and Duren on the trading block. They can’t even get empty stats against tanking teams.
Ivey is ass.

Hope everyone that was closing their eyes for the majority of the season has them open now. Monty was right putting dude on the bench ..problem was he ain’t have a legit nba player to play above him.
 
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Ivey is ass.

Hope everyone who was closing their eyes for the majority of the season has them open now. Monty was right putting dude on the bench ..problem was he ain’t have a legit nba player to play above him.
We have one nba starter maybe two after four drafts
A couple young guys given big roles they might not deserve

Maybe six nba players overall.

Troy and Monty should be fjred and been fired. We have the perfect position for a new gm and coach to come in and just try to make sense of a team. Cade is legit, 60 million in cap, Duren offensively can rim run but his defense needs to improve, Ausar can defend but his offense has to improve, stew is a solid piece, Tek is solid, and everything else imo expendable.
 

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We have one nba starter maybe two after four drafts
A couple young guys given big roles they might not deserve

Maybe six nba players overall.

Troy and Monty should be fjred and been fired. We have the perfect position for a new gm and coach to come in and just try to make sense of a team. Cade is legit, 60 million in cap, Duren offensively can rim run but his defense needs to improve, Ausar can defend but his offense has to improve, stew is a solid piece, Tek is solid, and everything else imo expendable.
Monty's ass didn't want the job till they overpaid now he won't take a buyout.
 
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