Money Williams- 2023-2024 Detroit Pistons Thread

Expectations

  • Another top 10 pick

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  • Play-in

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who_better_than_me

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I am tired of defending Jalen it's the same story with him three years in a row.. he is RJ Barrett status to me, until he proves himself in either carrying the team to the playoffs or showing up big in the playoffs.
Yeah it’s weird with him. It’s just about consistency. But I don’t blame him or any of the of the player s of that draft class. It’s hard for me to really anoint someone as a bust or disappointment when they not even legal. He just turned 21. That’s why I said you prolly won’t know about them, conclusively, until their next contract.
 

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Josh Giddey
Jonathan Kuminga
Alperen Sengun
Cam Thomas
Evan Mobley


I dunno if we made the best choice tbh
Can Thomas was not slotted that high. What he’s doing is unusual
Mobley would anchor the defense but the issue is spacing right now.

Monty is a moron with a lot of comfort room because of his deal. Benching Ivey, having hurt role players/shooters, and Cade getting blitz/playing bad is why.
 

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Yeah it’s weird with him. It’s just about consistency. But I don’t blame him or any of the of the player s of that draft class. It’s hard for me to really anoint someone as a bust or disappointment when they not even legal. He just turned 21. That’s why I said you prolly won’t know about them, conclusively, until their next contract.
I still maintain everybody in that class will be fine. Scottie so far has grown his game more than everybody.
 

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I still maintain everybody in that class will be fine. Scottie so far has grown his game more than everybody.
Nah his game was just most nba ready and he came into the best situation . Plus he was the oldest out of that class. Jalen, Cade, kuminghaand Mobley were all barely 19. Sengun was 18 I believe. Toronto was the only team that wasn’t in a tank. We saw in the nba skilled competition how underwhelming Barnes was. He had the highest floor.
 

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Is it true that he and Ivey haven’t even shared the floor together this season?
No, off top there was a stretch where he was in there with Cade and Killian yesterday and it worked just fine.
Worst shooting team in the NBA. I love Ausar. He has good form and touch. His shooting gonna come around. I see an Andre Iguadola imapct he can have on a team.

Monty on my nerves. We always down to end the 1st cuz he starting Killian Hayes.

There was a point in the 4th where we had momentum and Cade kicked it to a wide open Hayes on he bricked it. Saadiq Bey came back and hit an open 3. That was the game right there
I don't believe that is the reason. Also there was a stretch before that moment in the 4th where Killian was in the lineup and was a pivotal piece in regards to the team getting back in the game. I know yall like to single dude out in regards to play but he isnt the reason for the L's. On the flip I can recall many circumstances including a handful last night where Killian pulled in the defense and kicked it out to Cade for a wide open brick :manny: . Cade anywhere decent yesterday = a win, everyone else did enough imo.
 

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I understand what Monty is doing even though i don’t think he should. Maybe Ivey not showing the effort or doing the little stuff that Monty wanna instill in him. Ivey being a coaches son, you would think he should be all about effort and the nuances of the game.

Can’t be having killian and Thompson and duren on the floor together.
They’re losing too many games to be stubborn about this. He not benching Cade for having 5 or so turnovers a game.
 

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Cade tired of the superstar treatment. Teams are taking away his drives now and simply not guarding Stewart, Hayes, Thompson on perimeter. Cade exhausted and frustrated. Makes Ivey benching even more stupid. You can’t bench Ivey for defense when Cade has been terrible on defense too. Leads league by far in TOs and commits some of the dumbest fouls and he never gets benched for his play. You have to be consistent in your punishment for players. Ivey only one that can really relieve pressure off Cade. Very obvious the Cade Hayes Ausar Stewart lineup doesn’t work

The upcoming schedule brutal. If they don’t beat Wizards they gonna lose next 6-7 games
 

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Cade tired of the superstar treatment. Teams are taking away his drives now and simply not guarding Stewart, Hayes, Thompson on perimeter. Cade exhausted and frustrated. Makes Ivey benching even more stupid. You can’t bench Ivey for defense when Cade has been terrible on defense too. Leads league by far in TOs and commits some of the dumbest fouls and he never gets benched for his play. You have to be consistent in your punishment for players. Ivey only one that can really relieve pressure off Cade. Very obvious the Cade Hayes Ausar Stewart lineup doesn’t work

The upcoming schedule brutal. If they don’t beat Wizards they gonna lose next 6-7 games
Moneybag don’t give a fukk. He paid. Change. Whether we beat WAS or not our record for the first two months is gonna be looking abysmal. Do something moneybag.
 
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No one in the top of the 2021 draft is all that good well only Scottie.
Y’all crazy, this is essentially Cades second year.

He’s a big point guard. He needs space to operate. Starting Hayes is a boneheaded move. This the absolute worse shoot it’s you could surround him with and he’s still giving you 7 assist.
 

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Cade getting double and tripled team like he Adrian Hutchinson. Cade getting done worse, teams are attacking his passing lanes due to a lack of shooting

Ausur is a potential superstar.

Duren is grabbing double digit rebounds in his second year

Ivey needs minutes

The team is young. The biggest worry may be an impatient fanbase
 

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Y’all crazy, this is essentially Cades second year.

He’s a big point guard. He needs space to operate. Starting Hayes is a boneheaded move. This the absolute worse shoot it’s you could surround him with and he’s still giving you 7 assist.
Cade is not a point gaurd
 
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It’s his 3rdyear and he hasn’t made the leap.

Jalen Green has.

It’s time to admit that Cade has a lower ceiling than everybody hoped and that ceiling is neither helping or hurting this team overall, it’s just keeps the status quo.
How has Jalen Green made the leap averaging a whopping 19/4/2

But Cade hasn’t on 22/4/7?

Their shooting splits are pretty much the same.

One of these guys is being asked to lead a young team with no veteran presence.

Green ain’t even the best player young player on that team.

Mind you Cade missed a whole season.
 
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