Monday Night Raw 12/17/18: Shaking it up

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Ambrose wins clean at ppv

The next night Ambrose calls out rollins for a face to face and rolllins no shows

Then after ambrose has a match and wins... rollins is dressed in disguise and sneak attacks ambrose


Somehow....this makes ambrose the heel?



:mjlol::mjlol:
 

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SD ratings have always been predicated on Raws. A shytty RAW rating leads to a shytty SD rating, and a good Raw rating normally leads to a good SD rating. You should know this by now. It’s been the that way since 99.

Nope, nyet, nein. You can't shield the failure of the SD! roster to draw ratings by blaming RAW. The fact of the matter is no one is a draw. Wrestling itself isn't a draw. Bryan isn't putting more asses in seats or moving ratings in a meaningful way. You all look at wrestlers like Becky and Bryan as transcendent talent above whatever RAW has going on so I don't think it's unfair to hold their feet to the fire if you want to bring ratings into the discussion. I mean, it's a fool's errand but if some idiot wants to bring up change the channel heat when wrestling itself is doing 1.9s then everyone is getting change the channel heat and most people already changed the channel.

My point is you can't have people blaming Baron Corbin for low ratings, which is what Ken did, but ignore the lower ratings on SD! If Baron Corbin is held responsible so too should the top stars on SD!
 

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it was so bad last night and im afraid it will never get better. renee is usually great at commentary but even she couldnt believe the bullshyt she was reading i mean saying.
 

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Nope, nyet, nein. You can't shield the failure of the SD! roster to draw ratings by blaming RAW. The fact of the matter is no one is a draw. Wrestling itself isn't a draw. Bryan isn't putting more asses in seats or moving ratings in a meaningful way. You all look at wrestlers like Becky and Bryan as transcendent talent above whatever RAW has going on so I don't think it's unfair to hold their feet to the fire if you want to bring ratings into the discussion. I mean, it's a fool's errand but if some idiot wants to bring up change the channel heat when wrestling itself is doing 1.9s then everyone is getting change the channel heat and most people already changed the channel.

My point is you can't have people blaming Baron Corbin for low ratings, which is what Ken did, but ignore the lower ratings on SD! If Baron Corbin is held responsible so too should the top stars on SD!

When Smackdown live started in 2016, Cena and Ambrose were the top guys on that and there were no women’s champion, the ratings stayed around the same % of Raw’s rating consistently ever since.
 

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Nope, nyet, nein. You can't shield the failure of the SD! roster to draw ratings by blaming RAW. The fact of the matter is no one is a draw. Wrestling itself isn't a draw. Bryan isn't putting more asses in seats or moving ratings in a meaningful way. You all look at wrestlers like Becky and Bryan as transcendent talent above whatever RAW has going on so I don't think it's unfair to hold their feet to the fire if you want to bring ratings into the discussion. I mean, it's a fool's errand but if some idiot wants to bring up change the channel heat when wrestling itself is doing 1.9s then everyone is getting change the channel heat and most people already changed the channel.

My point is you can't have people blaming Baron Corbin for low ratings, which is what Ken did, but ignore the lower ratings on SD! If Baron Corbin is held responsible so too should the top stars on SD!

Dumbass, that’s literally been the case. If you’ve been watching wrestling as long as you pretend, you’d know that. Raw is the flagship show, has always been and always will be unless theres a major change (lol). It is ingrained in people’s minds that Raw >>> SD, even when often times SD has eternal shows. That’s simply how it is due to the WWE presenting SD as inferior. All you have to do is look back at survivor series to get a feel for that
 

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Man, I realized i've been saying I want Raw to be great again for the better part of 15 years. That's fukking crazy. I haven't watched for the last month or so, sticking to SmackDown, NXT, 205, and UK. After TLC, I was pretty content, and with this shake up shyt, I was like "let me watch, it's gotta be at least a dope night".

They literally repeated the Corbin beat down from the night before, minus Braun's presence. Like the sleight of hand they used to pin the problems of creative on Baron, WHILE babyfacing Steph and Hunter abruptly, while Vince was being cheered despite him being the one who controls creative, and while inexplicably bringing Shane over, who shouldn't even WANT Raw to be good in kayfabe was fukking baffling.

I turned it off after that segment. Like wrestling doesn't have to be fukking Emmy award winning TV. SmackDown has issues, but I don't often feel insulted (that BITW tournament shyt, and the Survivor Series aftermath being two BIG exceptions) and it's generally acceptable to very good. But Raw makes me feel like someone is treating me like i'm stupid while smiling in my face for 3 hours.

Seeing this, then reading the taping results? fukk no. Sorry I was tempted by this shyt, #nowatchgang. I shouldn't have abandoned you.
 

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Dumbass, that’s literally been the case. If you’ve been watching wrestling as long as you pretend, you’d know that. Raw is the flagship show, has always been and always will be unless theres a major change (lol). It is ingrained in people’s minds that Raw >>> SD, even when often times SD has eternal shows. That’s simply how it is due to the WWE presenting SD as inferior. All you have to do is look back at survivor series to get a feel for that

So what you're saying is no matter who they put at the top on SD! they aren't going to draw? So there really is no difference between Daniel Bryan's low ratings and Baron Corbin's, idiot.
 

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Vince successfully pulled off the okie dokie. GOAT troll.

Shoulda started the show stripping all titles lol.

Start the new year and TRTWM fresh
 
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