Damn I thought dude was 27
Mo Money, #4 Problems: 2019 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season Thread
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Damn I thought dude was 27philmonroe
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My tip is save that money and see if you can goto Hawaii for the preseason game if you’re not in Cali already. Personally Idgaf about actually going to training camp that shyt fukking with fun summer time activities imo.Thinking about hitting up training camp this yr brehs. It would be my first time out to Oxnard. Anyone have any tips, things to know, etc.
That aint a bad idea
shyt would be lit for a preseason gamephilmonroe
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Yeah it’s an experience and at a nice location so best of both worlds. I wish I could’ve went to London for that game.That aint a bad idea
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It has been a busy offseason for the Dallas Cowboys with some major moves, like getting DeMarcus Lawrence’s contract worked out, signing Randall Cobb, trading for Robert Quinn, and of course the draft picks. None of that has more significance or likely impact than the first major decision the team made. That was moving on from Scott Linehan and promoting QB coach and former team member Kellen Moore to offensive coordinator. It was both a daring and comfort zone move, as Moore is very inexperienced as a coach but has been around the team since Linehan brought him in as a backup QB in 2015. He knows Jason Garrett and his system very well, but now has the responsibility of making it work while bring the changes almost all of us have been begging for, at least for the past couple of seasons.
OTAs are a hard thing to get a lot of solid data from. Mostly they are about installing things, in this case the new wrinkles that Moore wants to use, and integrating newer faces with the established veterans. (For a nice look at what Moore is trying to do at this point, you might check this David Helman piece at the mothership out.) We still dig through reports and video from the one practice a day open to the media. Any tidbit from that is combined with things like who the team has brought in, and who it has retained, to try and suss out just what Moore is going to do.
So far, things have been quite encouraging. Our Connor Livesey took a look at what we may have learned earlier. If you missed it, you should go back and give it a read. This article is going to build on that, probing deeper into how Moore is going to use his personnel, and how that may affect the breakdown of offensive positions on the 53-man roster.
Let’s start with a quote from Connor’s article.
That gets me pumped up, and probably is very appealing to all of us who were begging for the team to move on from Linehan. One clear departure from the old way of doing things this indicates is the much anticipated use of motion and personnel to achieve favorable matchups. This applies specifically to the red zone, where so much of the time last year the team would go out and basically scream “RUN COMING” with the way they lined up. Now, we have our first solid evidence that Moore really is going to use motion and alignment rather than a bunch of big bodies to try and create running room. At the same time, it makes passing the ball more viable. Unpredictability is seen a crucial to a more efficient offense, and using 10 personnel in these situations does just that. (For any who don’t know how the number is used to indicate the personnel on the field, the first number is how many running backs are used and the second tells how many tight ends are on the field. Subtract that from five, and you also see how many wide receivers are in the mix.) This allows the Cowboys to go after the weak part of the defense. If they still load up the box, you throw the ball, since at least one of the wideouts will be single covered. If they play to stop the pass, hand it off and the offensive line should be able to open up a nice hole because of the numbers. The quarterback can audible to change the play if needed, and it also is a great way to use a run-pass option. RPOs can either involve a handoff or a fake to use play-action, or let Dak Prescott use his legs, with the RB either faking to draw defenders to the middle of the field, or serving as a blocker for Prescott.
You quickly see how the options flow from the personnel package. It complicates the problem for the defense and lets the Cowboys play to their strengths. In this case, those are the offensive line (which looks on track to a return to the superior play that we saw just a couple of seasons ago), Prescott’s athleticism and growing football savvy, and the talents of Ezekiel Elliott and perhaps Tony Pollard. Both of the latter are also good receivers, so that just adds one more level of complexity.
That idea has been discussed a lot since Moore got the nod as OC, but one thing that has not gotten as much attention is how he may use a more old-school aspect of the Cowboys offense, the fullback. It is pretty well established how Garrett likes to use a fullback as part of the offense, but under Linehan, the position was largely unused. I saw somewhere (sorry I can’t find the reference) that Jamize Olawale’s new contract was the first one done after Moore’s promotion. This may be a bit too much connecting the dots, but you have to wonder, as the original source I have lost did, if that was not influenced by Moore. It could indicate a plan to incorporate Olawale more in the offense. And there is already evidence that this might be the idea.
Like Elliott and Pollard, Olawale has some value as a receiver, although many mostly remember a somewhat egregious drop he made in the red zone that fed the idea that execution was just as much a problem as predictability last year. Still, putting what appears to be a running package on the field has some interesting effects in the passing game.
This does not reflect the percentages for running versus passing, but it does make one thing clear. Passing when you have any “heavy” group on the field leads to big gains. It is apparently a perfect example of doing what the defense doesn’t expect. That is believed to be what Moore is going to bring to the table, and the fact the team is working with a lot of two-back sets is indeed very intriguing.
The fact that the team seems to be leaning more to two RBs rather than extra TEs may be the real element of Jason Witten’s “reduced role”. Early indications are that he is the starter, but what looks to be a real change is that there often might not be a TE out there at all, as the 10 personnel quote above indicates. There haven’t been any observations of much use of a 20 package, but then we shouldn’t expect to see all the tricks during the OTAs. Training camp and preseason games will let us know just how much the team is going to de-emphasize the reliance on the TE to run the offense.
That leads to speculating on how the roster will be constructed on offense. This opinion from the resident scouting guru at DallasCowboys.com caught my eye.
While the emphasis in this piece has been on how Moore is going to use his backs and tight ends, the team still needs a good corps of wide receivers to use things like 10 personnel. And it is a given that 11 personnel is going to be the most common package. It is just a key element of Garrett’s philosophy. That means the team will likely go a bit heavy at WR, with six seeming a likely number for the 53-man roster. Dallas has also loaded up on the offensive line, so that may also be heavy, with perhaps nine carried. Clearly, running back is not going to be a place to skimp with a heavier use of things like 20 groups. So the logic of going light at QB and TE makes a lot of sense.
We don’t know for sure just how this will all come together, but one thing is obvious. Moore is having a real impact on things, and either is in complete alignment with how Garrett wants the offense run, or is being given rein to do it his way. In either case, things are looking rather exciting. The roster looks to be loaded with talent all over the offense. If Moore is able to use it properly, and the prospects look good, this could be a potent attack.
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10 personnel makes a lot of sense in short-yardage/redzone situations, especially if they commit to Dak being the featured runner in those situations NOT Zeke. If it was me, I'd go all in by replacing Zeke in the backfield with a FB or blocking TE.
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Perhaps the greatest mystery surrounding the 2019 Dallas Cowboys isn’t what the team will look like with a full season of Amari Cooper or how DeMarcus Lawrence will play now that he has his big-time contract. No no, it’s quite possible that the team’s former quarterback is where the intrigue lies.
To be fair, there are a lot of former quarterbacks hanging around the Cowboys these days, and with no disrespect to Jason Garrett or Jon Kitna, we’re talking about Kellen Moore. What Moore is able to do as the team’s new offensive coordinator is likely going to be what makes or breaks them as an overall unit come crunch time.
This is a team that is expected to at the very least contend for an NFC Championship Game appearance (that’s not the ultimate goal though) as they won their division and a playoff game a year ago. The time is now, and the time is Moore’s.
Of course, Moore spent part of his NFL career in a city besides Dallas. He started things off under Scott Linehan as a member of the Detroit Lions and it was there that he shared a room with Dan Orlovsky.
Dan Orlovsky’s description of Kellen Moore’s potential offense sounds like the exact opposite of Scott Linehan’s offense
Orlovsky isn’t coordinating an NFL offense these days, but he does lend his valuable insight to football fans everywhere thanks to his great Twitter account and appearances on ESPN. In fact, he recently made the rounds on the Mina Kimes Show and described what he thinks Moore’s offense could look like while discussing the merits of Dak Prescott and a new contract. It sounds awesome.
Orlovsky and Moore spent time together with the 2014 Lions which, coincidentally, is the year that Scott Linehan really earned his keep as the Cowboys offensive coordinator. If Orlovsky is right in his obviously somewhat early assessment of the offense that Moore is going to run, that sounds like something that would be very exciting to see from the current day Cowboys.
We learned on Wednesday that Moore plans to be on the sidelines when he’s serving as offensive coordinator, and we also learned a lot about how he just might in fact be using Precott’s legs more. That thought is very intriguing.
The Kellen Moore hype is real, but will it work come the 2019 season? We’re on board to find out.
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First, we all need to take a step back, take a deep breathe, and relax. Second, Kellen Moore is already incorporating some fun things into the Cowboys offense, and there is some evidence floating around that shows this Dallas offense could finally break out of it’s bland funk in 2019.
After Wednesday’s OTA practice that was available to the media, there were multiple different videos, pictures, and tweets that got me (and hopefully) you very excited about what’s to come in 2019 for the Cowboys offense. The first piece of evidence I wanted to bring up was a video that was tweeted out from the Dallas Cowboys twitter account after practice, showing of rookie running back Tony Pollard.
In the video you’ll see the second or possibly even the third-team offense working. While this looks like a really nice run from the 2019 fourth-round pick, the thing that stood out to me the most was the blocking-scheme that was used during this play. While it’s not totally clear because of the camera view, it sure looks like this was a trap-block-run that was able to spring Pollard free for a huge pickup on the ground.
Inside the Pylon breaks down the assignment for trap-blocks nicely here:
This blocking scheme works very nicely against teams with aggressive up the field interior defensive lineman, something many folks wanted to see more of in 2018 when Dallas faced the Rams, Eagles, and Seahawks. Here’s an example of what a successful trap-play looks like on the ground:
Along with the use of traps, Bryan Broaddus also included this quote in his Scout’s Notebook:
The second play that was reported that raised my excitement level was a note Bryan Broaddus included in his Scout’s Notebook on DallasCowboys.com. If you’ve been a fan of the Cowboys, or even the NFL, you know how much the “rub-route” has been adopted in the game today. If you’re a Cowboys fan, you know just how little the Scott Linehan offense would use versions of the run-route in his offense. Early looks from OTA’s show that, that may change in 2019:
There’s so much to take away from this little quote from Broaddus, and true signs of change coming to the Cowboys offensive gameplan.
The third, and final piece of evidence we have received after two weeks of OTA practices, is the use of 10-personnel in the red-zone. Multiple sources have reported that the Cowboys have shown in practices that the closer they get to the goal line, the more spreading out they are doing with their wide receivers. For years, the Cowboys have went with a “load it up, and run it approach” when facing third and short, and close to the goal line, but it seems as if that could change.
When spreading the offense out in 10-personnel, you’re doing a few different things to help the offense’s chances of picking up more yardage. First, with more receivers on the field, that means defenses will likely stay in a nickel or dime look, which means that there will be more defensive backs on the field than linebackers, the weaker the tacklers the better odds Elliott and Co. can pick up more yardage on the ground. In this case, that’s exactly what the Cowboys want when running the football near the goal line and in favorable down and distances. Second, spreading the defense out gives the Cowboys either 1) favorable box looks when running the football, or 2) favorable outside looks when passing the football. If opposing defenses still want to crowd the box in the red-zone and on the goal line when Dallas shows 10-personnel, than the passing game should flourish. If they want to play it straight with four-to-five defensive backs on the field, than the running game should flourish. Either way you look at it, the Cowboys are showing the ability to adapt and not continue to run into brick walls when in the red-zone, on the goal line, and in third and shorts.
While it’s still a little too early to get really excited, there is still enough evidence floating around from pictures, videos, to post/pre-practice interviews that gives the sense that the Dallas Cowboys offense could evolve in 2019. If so, a major nod should be given to Kellen Moore, and even Jason Garrett for promoting the former quarterback after just one season as the team's QB coach.
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they trying to suck us back in with all these glowing reports of the rookies.
they trying to suck us back in with all these glowing reports of the rookies.
Don’t listen to it. A rookie won’t come in and ball out from round 5 at cb. Our best hope is Awuzie stop bullshyttin.
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Lol he a sixth round pick. He’s better than any y’all nikkas thought
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Anthony Brown regressed like a mother in 2017 tho
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Just a reminder I said this back in January:
New article from Yesterday:
@dtownreppin214 If Kellen Moore is gonna run the Chris Peterson/Bryan Harsin/Boise St offense, i'd actually could live with him being promoted to OC. That offense literally fits the descriptions of what everybody in this thread says they want to see in the new Cowboys offense.
New article from Yesterday:
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