Missouri is allowing a KKK member to run for governor. Guess which party he is a member of?

[Adeptus Astartes]

Both sides literally means both sides are racist, so I don't know why every time a racist Republican is exposed, this is some kind of news. "Both-sides" literally say over and over that Republicans are overt and Democrats are covert.

What's funny is how the Democrats on here conveniently ignore Biden bringing a black family chicken come time for election and gets himself a hamburger or ignores a black boy being called a changuito, aka monkey, by an LA council member

Racist remarks in leaked audio of L.A. council members spark outrage, disgust

A leaked recording of L.A. City Council members and a labor official includes racist remarks. Council President Nury Martinez apologizes; Councilmember Kevin de León expresses regret.

www.latimes.com

Bringing chicken vs running open white nationalists for office. Both the same, Lmao.

Also, Biden called for the resignation of the LA councilors.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

State with the Gateway to the West is in the South.....interesting. you would almost think Missouri is a Midwestern state with a monument like that but its thecoli so you never know

Missouri is an ambiguous state, it has aspects of the South and the Midwest both. There are parts of the state that are further south than anywhere in Virginia, and the town of Steele, Missouri is further south than Nashville, Tennessee or even parts of North Carolina.

Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War. The Dred Scott decision that affirmed the non-citizenship of slaves was based from St. Louis. Only 10% of Missouri voters picked Abraham Lincoln. Their governor wanted to join the Confederate South, not the Union, but they held a convention and the majority of delegates voted to stay in the Union. About 110,000 Missouri men fought for the Union Army, but another 40,000 left to fight for the Confederates.

Parts of Missouri certainly feel very Midwest, but there is a clear Southern influence to much of the state as well.

 

[Born2BKing]

Both sides literally means both sides are racist, so I don't know why every time a racist Republican is exposed, this is some kind of news. "Both-sides" literally say over and over that Republicans are overt and Democrats are covert.

What's funny is how the Democrats on here conveniently ignore Biden bringing a black family chicken come time for election and gets himself a hamburger or ignores a black boy being called a changuito, aka monkey, by an LA council member

Racist remarks in leaked audio of L.A. council members spark outrage, disgust

A leaked recording of L.A. City Council members and a labor official includes racist remarks. Council President Nury Martinez apologizes; Councilmember Kevin de León expresses regret.

www.latimes.com

Do you think John Lewis was a c00n?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Both sides literally means both sides are racist, so I don't know why every time a racist Republican is exposed, this is some kind of news. "Both-sides" literally say over and over that Republicans are overt and Democrats are covert.

What's funny is how the Democrats on here conveniently ignore Biden bringing a black family chicken come time for election and gets himself a hamburger or ignores a black boy being called a changuito, aka monkey, by an LA council member

Racist remarks in leaked audio of L.A. council members spark outrage, disgust

A leaked recording of L.A. City Council members and a labor official includes racist remarks. Council President Nury Martinez apologizes; Councilmember Kevin de León expresses regret.

www.latimes.com

I watched the video and the ADULTS at the table have hamburgers, including the Black father, not just Biden. The kids have chicken strips.


President Trump: Openly race-baits the entire election, calls Obama an Affirmative Action kid, calls multiple Black people low-IQ, consistently shyts on Black activists and Black countries, appoints numerous White Nationalists to important positions, and passes anti-black laws left and right.

President Biden: Sat down to dinner with a Black family eating hamburgers and chicken strips.


BOTH SIDES!!!

 

[Samori Toure]

Missouri is an ambiguous state, it has aspects of the South and the Midwest both. There are parts of the state that are further south than anywhere in Virginia, and the town of Steele, Missouri is further south than Nashville, Tennessee or even parts of North Carolina.

Missouri was a slave state before the Civil War. The Dred Scott decision that affirmed the non-citizenship of slaves was based from St. Louis. Only 10% of Missouri voters picked Abraham Lincoln. Their governor wanted to join the Confederate South, not the Union, but they held a convention and the majority of delegates voted to stay in the Union. About 110,000 Missouri men fought for the Union Army, but another 40,000 left to fight for the Confederates.

Parts of Missouri certainly feel very Midwest, but there is a clear Southern influence to much of the state as well.

Since we are going to kick around logic then how about these facts. Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York were also slave States at a point before the Civil War. The States of North Carolina and Tennessee were loyal to the Union and did not want to leave it and as soon as the war ended they were the first 2 Southern States to rejoin the Union. If you want to be real then Los Angeles and Atlanta, Georgia, are approximately the same latitude, but Los Angeles is not a Southern City even though a bunch of people loyal to the Confederacy flocked to the city.

However what makes Missouri the Midwest is the Gateway Arch and the fact that the United States Government literally states that Missouri is in the Midwest.

 

[the elastic]

McClanahan

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Logic is absolutely lost in this thread.

Since we are going to kick around logic then how about these facts. Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York were also slave States at a point before the Civil War.

But they gave up slavery by their own vote, on their own initiative, 60-70 years before the war started.

That's not the same as a state that literally had to go to Civil War before they gave up slavery.

If you want to be real then Los Angeles and Atlanta, Georgia, are approximately the same latitude, but Los Angeles is not a Southern City even though a bunch of people loyal to the Confederacy flocked to the city.

Los Angeles was 2000 miles from the South and was a Free State from the moment it was founded.

Parts of Missouri are directly between Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

[Samori Toure]

Logic is absolutely lost in this thread.





But they gave up slavery by their own vote, on their own initiative, 60-70 years before the war started.

That's not the same as a state that literally had to go to Civil War before they gave up slavery.






Los Angeles was 2000 miles from the South and was a Free State from the moment it was founded.

Parts of Missouri are directly between Arkansas and Tennesee.

Missouri is also between Kansas and Illinois and those are the two States that Missouri most identifies with historically or have you never heard of the Missouri/Kansas border war, which was the prelude to the civil war..

Your premise was that Missouri was a slave State at a point before the Civil War, but so were the Northern States That I pointed out to you. That didn't make them any less Northern and on top of that Tennessee and North Carolina were pro union, especially towards the mountains and they reluctantly seceded with the South.

Finally California did not secede from the Union during the conflict Civil War, mostly because of Norcal but Los Angeles was pro South.

 

[Lord Beasley]

darrell mcklanahan...sounds about white

 

[King Static X]

Missouri is not the south​

Missouri is in the Midwest.

Missouri is half-and-half.

The northern part of Missouri (along with the 3 big cities: St. Louis, Kansas City, and Jefferson City) is Midwestern.

The southern part of Missouri is Southern.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Missouri is also between Kansas and Illinois and those are the two States that Missouri most identifies with historically or have you never heard of the Missouri/Kansas border war, which was the prelude to the civil war..

Yes, which is why I called it an AMBIGUOUS state that shares aspects of both Midwest and South.

They had slavery all the way up until the Civil War forced them to give it up.

They're between Kansas and Illinois, but also between Arkansas and Tennessee.

They joined the North, but many (including the governor) wanted to join the South.

 

[Samori Toure]

Missouri is half-and-half.

The northern part of Missouri (along with the 3 big cities: St. Louis, Kansas City, and Jefferson City) is Midwestern.

The southern part of Missouri is Southern.

Indiana and Ohio have Southern tendencies like Kentucky, but that does not make them the South.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Finally California did not secede from the Union during the conflict Civil War, mostly because of Norcal but Los Angeles was pro South.

Not comparable.


* Missouri was a slave state, California was a free state

* Lincoln won California with Southern candidates splitting 36% of the vote. Lincoln only managed 10% in Missouri with Southern candidates pulling 54% of the vote.

* Missouri's governor wanted to join the Confederacy, California's governor wanted to join the Union.

* After war was declared, 110,000 Missouri men joined the Union Army and 40,000 joined the Confederacy. 17,000 California men joined the Union Army and 250 joined the Confederacy.



Trying to claim that any ambiguity in early California was even close to that in Missouri isn't being honest.

 

[Samori Toure]

Yes, which is why I called it an AMBIGUOUS state that shares aspects of both Midwest and South.

They had slavery all the way up until the Civil War forced them to give it up.

They're between Kansas and Illinois, but also between Arkansas and Tennessee.

They joined the North, but many (including the governor) wanted to join the South.

I understand your point, but my point is that it is a Midwestern State.

 

[King Static X]

Indiana and Ohio have Southern tendencies like Kentucky, but that does not make them the South.

OK, but Missouri is literally half Midwestern and half Southern.

Indiana & Ohio are not half-and-half.