Minnesota as test case for liberal/progressive power

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i know you're not big on simple, direct questions. we learned that watching you constantly caping for trannies

Oh, no. I actually think workers should be paid fairly and trans people have the right to exist freely as human beings. What ever is my problem? :unimpressed:

uber has openly stated that they'd close shop rather than abide by these rules. is that prerefable to uber drivers? yes or no?

:childplease:. They weren't closing up shyt, and if they did, they are not the only rideshare company in the world, nor the only gig app. You are aware drivers are not exclusive to Uber, yes?
 

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Oh, no. I actually think workers should be paid fairly and trans people have the right to exist freely as human beings. What ever is my problem? :unimpressed:



:childplease:. They weren't closing up shyt, and if they did, they are not the only rideshare company in the world, nor the only gig app. You are aware drivers are not exclusive to Uber, yes?
:russell: you internet crusaders are embarrassing. if your life is that unfulfilled, go assassinate trump or something. do something productive

you cant just sit around bytching that america isnt sweden :dead:
 

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likewise. i respect that you haven't put me on ignore :russ:

meanwhile, i"ll keep trying to move democrats to the center, so we can win every election :salute:
don't confuse me for wanting to move the democrats to the center of white supremacy, because that's not my position at all... i just admire how you can continually bait and lure seemingly smart people into some of the dumbest and most asinine arguments imaginable.... this clown literally went from someone saying they think uber drivers should be paid higher wages and that trans people should be allowed to exist to 'why don't you go murder trump'.... :dead: ... why the whole board doesn't have you on ignore is a mystery to me... but that just goes to why i say you're brilliant... people actually pay attention to your drivel.....
 

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:russell: you internet crusaders are embarrassing. if your life is that unfulfilled, go assassinate trump or something. do something productive


you cant just sit around bytching that america isnt sweden :dead:

So we have to assassinate Trump and turn America into Sweden for workers to get paid fair...

You know what, never mind. You got it. Enjoy your Memorial Day. 🏳️
 

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don't confuse me for wanting to move the democrats to the center of white supremacy, because that's not my position at all... i just admire how you can continually bait and lure seemingly smart people into some of the dumbest and most asinine arguments imaginable.... this clown literally went from someone saying they think uber drivers should be paid higher wages and that trans people should be allowed to exist to 'why don't you go murder trump'.... :dead: ... why the whole board doesn't have you on ignore is a mystery to me... but that just goes to why i say you're brilliant... people actually pay attention to your drivel.....
i want to move them to the center of winning elections. a good, moderate democrat should win every election :obama:

you radical trans militants are a hindrance, but we should be able to get past you, as long as trump is breathing :salute:
 

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Tbh, McAullife ran a shytty campaign, after Black Face Northam, Justin Fairfax’s rape allegations and the GOP weaponizing the school boards across the state.
Yep, Republicans caught a perfect storm with "CRT" ramping up.
 

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Stop engaging with that CAC, he goes on and on about Desantis wining FL by 20 points. Willfully deaf/blind (hes more than likely trolling) and not understanding the demographic changes. Somehow he always is yelling liberals (its really the piece of shyt republicans from Cali, NY, NJ, etc) are leaving blue states for red state, but somehow we "should pay attention to Desantis' 20 point victory!!! Hes changing the political landscape in FL!" Smh.
 

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Agreed but that’s kind of my point. The GOP rule some of these states with an iron grip no matter how stupid they act. If the Dems have a one seat majority.. how much fantasy GOP grievance does it take to swing back.

CRT isn’t real. But it was enough to win the House from a real progressive agenda.
I would push back on VA legislators having a real progressive agenda. Saying that, VA’s issue was more to do with COVID and weaponizing school boards. Virginia was the first test case for that. The school board meetings were bananas in 2021, and it touched northern VA white counties.
 

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Stop engaging with that CAC, he goes on and on about Desantis wining FL by 20 points. Willfully deaf/blind (hes more than likely trolling) and not understanding the demographic changes. Somehow he always is yelling liberals (its really the piece of shyt republicans from Cali, NY, NJ, etc) are leaving blue states for red state, but somehow we "should pay attention to Desantis' 20 point victory!!! Hes changing the political landscape in FL!" Smh.
looks like he got bushed again... he'll be back trolling in a couple of weeks....
 

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the solution is simple, offer free higher education too. :mjgrin:

the threat of a good example ya'll:wow:
 

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North Dakota university leaders fear ‘catastrophic implications’ of new Minnesota free tuition plan​



BY JACK DURA AND STEVE KARNOWSKI
ASSOCIATED PRESS
JULY 3, 2023 4:01 PM PT


BISMARCK, N.D. —
North Dakota higher education officials are deeply worried about losing students and revenue in 2024 when neighboring Minnesota makes public college and university tuition free for thousands of residents.

Officials estimate around 15,000 to 20,000 Minnesota students a year will use the free North Star Promise program, and North Dakota education officials are projecting an $8.4-million loss in combined tuition and fees in the first year alone, under one scenario.

Roughly 1,400 Minnesota students attending North Dakota colleges and universities might be eligible for the new program.


“This has catastrophic implications,” said David Cook, North Dakota State University’s president, at a recent State Board of Higher Education meeting. “This is a very serious situation for us.”

Minnesota students make up close to half the student body at North Dakota State in Fargo, their No. 1 out-of-state pick in their first year. They accounted for nearly 40% of the first-year students at the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks and North Dakota State College of Science in Wahpeton in fall 2021.

“Probably half of our football team comes from Minnesota, so that’s kind of a big deal to us,” College of Science President Rod Flanigan said.

North Star Promise will cover undergraduate tuition and fees at Minnesota’s public post-secondary schools for students whose family income is below $80,000 after they’ve tapped other sources of financial aid. It will take effect in fall 2024.

Kari Rod, 38, of Brooklyn Center, Minn., said North Star Promise will help her go back to college and finish her degree without taking on more student loans, and encourage her 13-year-old stepson to enroll in-state after high school.


“Our family had seriously considered moving” so the teen could take advantage of a program that covers college tuition for students who graduate from public schools in Kalamazoo, Mich., Rod said. But after Minnesota’s program passed, they decided to stay.

The program also “opens up the world of possibilities” for her 5-year-old’s future, Rod said.

According to the Campaign for Free College Tuition, a national nonprofit, more than half the states now offer some kind of free college tuition, often with the word “Promise” in their program names. Seven set few eligibility limits.

Many others, like Minnesota, have income limits, have merit requirements, or are limited to specific schools or majors. The group says making higher education affordable for everyone is imperative to a workforce with the skills needed for the U.S. to compete in the global marketplace.

Democratic state Sen. Tim Mathern said he is drafting a bill similar to Minnesota’s program but for North Dakotans. He acknowledged the headwinds Democrats face in North Dakota’s Republican-supermajority Legislature.

“I don’t think we should decry what Minnesota has done,” Mathern said. “We should be spending our time being creative about what our abilities are.”

North Dakota education officials estimate it would cost over $17.2 million annually to pay tuition and fees for all students eligible for federal Pell Grants, amounting to about 4,300 students at five schools.

Minnesota’s move hasn’t sparked the same fears in other neighboring states. University of Wisconsin officials are expanding a free tuition program that started at its flagship Madison campus to 12 more schools this fall.

The presidents of North Dakota State and the University of North Dakota are leading a group to address the potential impacts of Minnesota’s free tuition on their schools, which are already recruiting students for fall 2024.

Lawmakers also plan to explore the implications through an interim legislative panel ahead of the next session in 2025.

“When we have all these alternate (education) delivery methods, and we have a traditional student base that is shrinking, and we have workforce issues — all of these things are creating an issue that’s bigger than a one-state response,” said Republican Rep. Mark Sanford, who chairs the panel.

Republican House Majority Leader Mike Lefor said he doesn’t want to “rush into a decision” on responding.

“We can’t just be reacting to different situations from different states,” Lefor told reporters. “We have to have good, solid policy going forward.”

North Dakota’s Legislature this year froze tuition statewide for all students for the next two years, a move meant to be competitive with neighboring states, including Minnesota.

Lawmakers need to respond while acknowledging that campus programs will still draw out-of-state students, said North Dakota University System Chancellor Mark Hagerott.

“I’m confident we can avoid catastrophe,” he said.

Karnowski reported from Minneapolis. Trisha Ahmed also contributed.
 
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