Ya' Cousin Cleon
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if the 1% had any brains they'd be advocating for some form of Market based socialism
Millionaire boss who began paying his employees $70,000 minimum wage is thriving
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The difference is you are suggesting using government force to make citizens behave how you believe they should.How could anything ever change if we didn't criticize people for their wrong actions?
You straight criticized me for not behaving like you believe I should in that very comment..
I oppose this morally....just redistribute effectively and improve education.
As for the rest... calling for more government while asserting that government is working for the wealthy will never get old.
...if the state has become the mechanism by which the wealthy strengthen and maintain their position. How does increasing the size and reach of government combat that?
Where do you get that I suggested that anywhere?
The OP I wrote is about a dude who voluntarily chose to pay his employees better and how well that's worked out for him. I at several points suggested that other CEOs see the light and follow in his example, or shyt going to get ugly. I made moralistic judgments in several places and suggested at one point that public pressure campaigns really do work. I NEVER suggested government force anywhere in the thread except alluding to an adjustment in the already-existing minimum wage.
The issue being, as I already pointed out to you, that those who control the government have no interest in effective redistribution and only the slightest, mostly misguided interest in "improving" education.
...just redistribute effectively and improve education.
A second issue being that such an approach maintains the current system which incentivizes bad behavior. Outside of a moderately high UBI (which perhaps is what you're suggesting but is still a long ways off under the current regime), there's no real way to protect the masses from the abuses of power with mere "redistribution".
Watching ideologues who get their talking points from pundits create strawmen out of thin air doesn't get old either. Nowhere in this thread did I say anything about more government. I explicitly point out that the government in charge is indeed working for the wealthy - they will not do the right thing.As for the rest... calling for more government while asserting that government is working for the wealthy will never get old.
At heart I'm a libertarian socialist in the mold of Silvio Gesell, in favor of the sorts of ideas that have been pushed most recently by popular writers like Charles Eisenstein and Nathan J. Robinson. (And which, in my reading, finds a great deal of support in the edicts of the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus and practices of his disciples) I don't believe government but rather a change in our own moral priorities is the ultimate solution to the problems we face. The root issue is not "too much" or "too little" government but rather the very nature of our money systems, land ownership, and other structures which are purposely implemented so as to solidify and enhance the power of the wealthy over others.
Unfortunately, the faulty world we live in is so utterly controlled by the money-holders and White Supremacy (not just in terms of financial and political power, but even in terms of thought, in how they are able to direct to a great extent what is published and circulated and pushed as "truth" about money and power), that any direct pathway towards those ideals seems almost impossible. In order to have any chance of even breaking into some more open, democratic, freedom-enhancing way of structuring the economy, we first have to get the rich a$$holes out of the cut.
The French Revolutionaries modeled one means of doing that, but I'm fundamentally anti-violence and their example performed poorly in the end, as do the violent revolutions of those who follow after Marx. Instead I would prefer a more nonviolent, democratic means of pushing the rich aside. Going through the church would be nice, but the Church is relatively weak right now. Thus government stands, despite all of its faults, as the most democratic institution out there that at least has a chance to combat the power of the wealthy which is preventing us from change. The key is to take advantage of the pseudo-democratic aspects of government in order to launch a coup over the plutocratic aspects, from which we can do our best to democratize public resources and opportunity, raise the relative power of the masses in relation to the rich, and hopefully reach a point where the monopoly of the wealthy over our fundamental systems can be broken and the people at large will be able to set in place systems that actually allow them to be free to work out their own destinies.
It’s the fundamental flaw of capitalism...
This man is just a good human being who is trying to do the right thing..
Meanwhile you got people like Jeff Bezos who hires third party contractors and gives zero health benefits and pays ZERO taxes.
But you’ll have stupid ass people who accept crumbs and fight for these CEOs and vote Republican..
You really are lostDon’t hate the players, hate the game
CEOs outside of his philosophy are scumbags. Who knew?
They raise food prices artifically as an excuse to get even bigger raises
