Millatary to court marshall soldiers who share their faith

[valet]

The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.

The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith.

(From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”)

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends Wednesday morning:

It’s a matter of what do they mean by "proselytizing." ...I think they’ve got their defintions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.”

FRC has launched a petition here which has already collected over 30,000 signatures, calling on Secretary Hagel is stop working with Weinstein and his anti-Christian organization to develop military policy regarding religious faith.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...rt-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Penalized for promoting faith in God but told to share gayness among your ranks.

Its so demonic, friends.

 

[88m3]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...rt-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith

brietbart.com breh?



Anyways, it's in their code of conduct.

 

[valet]

@88m3 Not familiar with the website. Just saw this posted on FB.

 

[88m3]

@88m3 Not familiar with the website. Just saw this posted on FB.

@valet

He was a Right Wing lunatic, that DEVGRU liquidated under the direct orders of Barack Obama.

 

[unit321]

I would want to see that kind of news come from something with more credibility than www.breitbart.com, like a NASCAR-based Twitter feed.

 

[The Real]

If this is actually true, court martialing seems a bit extreme, but I can't say I really have big problems with the law itself. Faith should be private in that context. If someone comes to you asking about your faith, then by all means tell them about it, but the military is no place to have random missionaries and proselytizers running their mouths about any religion.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

And the problem is...?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

If this is actually true, court martialing seems a bit extreme, but I can't say I really have big problems with the law itself. Faith should be private in that context. If someone comes to you asking about your faith, then by all means tell them about it, but the military is no place to have random missionaries and proselytizers running their mouths about any religion.

Faith should be private, sexual preference should be open?

 

[MMS]

millatary :cheff:

 

[The Real]

Faith should be private, sexual preference should be open?

Actually, the scope of behavior we're talking about isn't that different for either one. Sexual preference being open just means that people don't have to avoid the topic and can openly self-identify as what they are. Same goes for religion. This law doesn't mean that people will literally be forced into silence about religion at all times. They can talk about and identify with their faith openly, they just can't go around proselytizing. The proselytizing thing has no analogue when it comes to sexual preference, since you can't preach or proselytize it.

 

[Shogun]

I would want to see that kind of news come from something with more credibility than www.breitbart.com, like a NASCAR-based Twitter feed.

 

[JuvenileHell]

Hm..so I guess this means that a soldier can't express his religious views in a manner that feels like he's trying to convert another soldier to his religion? I don't see the problem with that.

I think that just being able to identify yourself as following a particular religion is enough for a soldier in the military mainly because you're not in the military to spread a religious message, you're there to train to become a fighter and that should be your primary focus.

 

[thekingsmen]

And the problem is...?

you're gay and you hate Christians.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Actually, the scope of behavior we're talking about isn't that different for either one. Sexual preference being open just means that people don't have to avoid the topic and can openly self-identify as what they are. Same goes for religion. This law doesn't mean that people will literally be forced into silence about religion at all times. They can talk about and identify with their faith openly, they just can't go around proselytizing. The proselytizing thing has no analogue when it comes to sexual preference, since you can't preach or proselytize it.

Why does proselyzing have no place in the military?