Mike Tyson vs Deontay Wilder: Who Wins?

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Master Teacher said:
Tyson too small for wilder, Evander said Wilder would beat him he's too big for him, Foreman said Wilder would beat him too they not lying

people always overrate athletes from the past and don't look at facts, or they fall in love with the personalities of the fighter and can't be objective

Foreman was worst than Wilder when he was young you can pull up any Foreman fight for the 70s he sloppy and all over the place, I don't wanna hear that shyt, he boxed way better when he was old

how can you say his ring acumen is bad when Tyson Fury barely survived against him and he suppose to be a technician
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How can you say his ring acumen is bad when he hasn't even been down as a heavyweight, which is hard to do, I mean even Lennox Lewis got KO'd by inferior fighters to him, Wilder would kill Rahman and Moore

the 90s heavyweight era was worst than the era today, holyfield a goddamn cruiserweight and was a top heavyweight, Larry Holmes was in a weak era too, only era weaker than the 80s and 90s is the 2000's when wlad was dominating

Tyson lost to fukking Busta Douglas lmao, yet Wilder can't beat him, stop with this nonsense
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Tyson fury is a arm punching over hyped heavyweight.

Tyson lost to buster Douglass did u see the fight?

That wasn't Tyson at his best and YOU know that as well.


Wilder has NO HEAD movement at all and throws wide punches... Not beating a prime mike
 
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Master Teacher said:
Stop what stating facts

you respond with nothing, this hero worship is just stannery, Mike Tyson doesn't have one signature win on his resume, Mike Tyson wouldn't last 4 rounds with Wilder

Mike Tyson isn't a 12 round fighter, his power is gone after 5 rounds, Wilder could fight 15 rounds and still has power, he a way better athlete than Tyson is not even fukking close
Tyson lost to Busta Douglas who is trashed,

Wilder got no boxing skills right, he did way better against Fury than Wlad did right, so I guess Wlad has zero boxing skills since he couldn't even land a jab on tyson fury let alone drop him twice

you see stupid yall sound, when you let your emotions dictate your reality, Mike Tyson couldn't beat Holyfield who is a goddman cruiserweight, Lennox Lewis got knocked out twice by guys who were trash, and he never should've lost to, so why wouldn' Wilder be able to knock him out he only gotta catch once with the right hand to do that

if Oliver McCall can KO Lewis in the second round so can Wilder, these are just facts, I'm not making shyt up
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Tyson had problems when somebody was strong enough to push him back, make him go backwards, also if an opponent had a good jab that could help.

Holyfield was a former CW but he was still physically strong as shyt as a HW, stronger than Wilder.
Wilder has basically no inside/pocket game and he is not particularly a physically strong HW. We saw multiple times Wilder forced to be on his backfoot against such opponents as Szpilka or Molina. He wouldn't back Tyson up. Tyson is shorter than Wilder but weighs pretty much the same and that's only bad news for Wilder if Tyson would get on the inside. He would bang Wilder's body like some pinata and then he would get in some looping overhand hooks and whatnot...
Everybody who ever sparred on the inside with people shorter than them knows just how difficult that can be.

Wilder has an okay jab but we saw what it worths against an opponent who's not there to be hit. His jab would be rendered useless against a prime Mike Tyson's bobbing and weaving. Tyson had a way better defense in his prime than Wilder anytime. Also he was quicker and more creative with his combinations, fast on his feet. Once he would get in the pocket (and he would) it would be a wrap for Wilder.
I'm not saying this as it would be a big shame for Wilder cause we are talking about prime Tyson but looking at their styles, strengths and weaknesses I really think Tyson would be done with him by round 4 or so. I just don't see what Wilder would have to offer once they are close and I also don't see how he would prevent Tyson from getting close. Tyson was also a super fast starter while Wilder is usually not a fast starter. He would get blitzed. The only time Wilder started fast ever since he got his title was on the Stiverne rematch against a washed up, plodding zombie what Stiverne was at that time, on every other title fights of his he started slow. Wilder doesn't really start a fight until round 4 or so... He wouldn't have this luxury against Tyson.

Wilder is not difficult to hurt but he has good recuperative power it seems like but it wouldn't be enough against Tyson.


Oh and that stuff about Wlad, Fury and Wilder
It has more to do with styles than with anything else
Wilder is a slugger who never stops trying to go for the knockout and can throw carefulness in the bushes if he feels it is needed.
Wlad on the other hand became this safety first, methodic boxer-puncher under Steward which brought him a lot of success but against Fury it was his downfall as he couldn't step on the gas not even when it was needed (well only in the last round). So no it's not because Wilder would be more skilled than Wlad lol.

Also Wilder fought Fury when Fury just got back from 2.5 year of fast living and depression while Wlad fought him before all that
 
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The Michael Spinks slander is one of the few things that irritates me and its mostly because most associate him with the Tyson loss. This is not Leon Spinks and even Leon accomplished more than any wilder opponent..esp the aforementioned 3.

Michael Spinks is on the greatest fighters of all time. Part of the one of the greatest olympic boxing teams of all time. A gold medalist. The man was undisputed and lineal light heavyweight champion of the world...went up and beat the undefeated lineal heavyweight champion of the world Larry Holmes who is also an ATG heavyweight and fighter in general. That is who Mike Tyson beat

This is not Bermane Stiverne, a man who dehydrates himself for no reason and who struggled with the likes of Ray Austin and who beat a hapless Chris Arreola for his title
This is not Luis Ortiz who didnt accomplish shyt on the amateur level..even for a Cuban and only has one good win over an actual contender
This is not Chris Arreola who hasnt accomplished anything other than losses..career because it certainly wasnt weight..never beat anyone close to a legit contender.
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Spinks is one of the greatest light heavies hands down and that win over larry holmes ranks up
 
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Tyson had problems when somebody was strong enough to push him back, make him go backwards, also if an opponent had a good jab that could help.

Holyfield was a former CW but he was still physically strong as shyt as a HW, stronger than Wilder.
Wilder has basically no inside/pocket game and he is not particularly a physically strong HW. We saw multiple times Wilder forced to be on his backfoot against such opponents as Szpilka or Molina. He wouldn't back Tyson up. Tyson is shorter than Wilder but weighs pretty much the same and that's only bad news for Wilder if Tyson would get on the inside. He would bang Wilder's body like some pinata and then he would get in some looping overhand hooks and whatnot...
Everybody who ever sparred on the inside with people shorter than them knows just how difficult that can be.

Wilder has an okay jab but we saw what it worths against an opponent who's not there to be hit. His jab would be rendered useless against a prime Mike Tyson's bobbing and weaving. Tyson had a way better defense in his prime than Wilder anytime. Also he was quicker and more creative with his combinations, fast on his feet. Once he would get in the pocket (and he would) it would be a wrap for Wilder.
I'm not saying this as it would be a big shame for Wilder cause we are talking about prime Tyson but looking at their styles, strengths and weaknesses I really think Tyson would be done with him by round 4 or so. I just don't see what Wilder would have to offer once they are close and I also don't see how he would prevent Tyson from getting close. Tyson was also a super fast starter while Wilder is usually not a fast starter. He would get blitzed. The only time Wilder started fast ever since he got his title was on the Stiverne rematch against a washed up, plodding zombie what Stiverne was at that time, on every other title fights of his he started slow. Wilder doesn't really start a fight until round 4 or so... He wouldn't have this luxury against Tyson.

Wilder is not difficult to hurt but he has good recuperative power it seems like but it wouldn't be enough against Tyson.


Oh and that stuff about Wlad, Fury and Wilder
It has more to do with styles than with anything else
Wilder is a slugger who never stops trying to go for the knockout and can throw carefulness in the bushes if he feels it is needed.
Wlad on the other hand became this safety first, methodic boxer-puncher under Steward which brought him a lot of success but against Fury it was his downfall as he couldn't step on the gas not even when it was needed (well only in the last round). So no it's not because Wilder would be more skilled than Wlad lol.

Also Wilder fought Fury when Fury just got back from 2.5 year of fast living and depression while Wlad fought him before all that
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lmao you said Holyfield is stronger than Wilder lmao, you live in a Fantasy World

Evander himself said Wilder would beat him he was not lying or being nice, he was telling the truth, none of these cats in the past of mystical powers lmao, I can't take you serious now
 
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I swear yall are fukking morons tyson is too small to beat wilde fury was damn near 300 pounds and hit hi, behind the head and xoukdnt recover yall act like you never seen heavyweight boxing before

Tydon dont have the height or reach to do anything fury can do and cant beat fury either he is too small


Heavyweights are just getting to kltchko size and fury way biggee than that
 
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