Mike Trout: 14 Seasons, 3x MVP, ROY, 11x All-Star, 4x MVP Runner-Up...ZERO Post-season Ws

[Aje]

Angels have only

Give me some examples of one (or even two) great players on a baseball team carrying an entire squad of bums (pitching included) thru an entire season

This isn't basketball

You can argue Ohtani counts as two good/great players. I know it's not basketball.

Here are the teams that have made the playoffs over the Angels:
2022:
TOR, SEA
2019:
OAK
2018
OAK
2017
MIN
2016
TOR, BAL
2015:
TEX, HOU

 

[Remote]

Angels have only

You can argue Ohtani counts as two good/great players. I know it's not basketball.

Here are the teams that have made the playoffs over the Angels:
2022:
TOR, SEA
2019:
OAK
2018
OAK
2017
MIN
2016
TOR, BAL
2015:
TEX, HOU

This is missing an outrageous level of context.

 

[Aje]

This is missing an outrageous level of context.

Just curious: are you an Angel / Trout fan? You negged me for this thread...it's really not that serious. My ultimate point is this guy gets so much props and plays in a big market with an owner who spends a lot of money, albeit stupidly.

In Trout's career, it's not like he's been in the AL East with 3 or even 4 good/great teams. They've only managed to win 90+ games once.

Of course, it's not all his fault, but how can this guy not have ONE playoff win in his HoF career?

He's the new Ernie Banks. Except, for the majority of Banks' career, only one team in his league made the playoffs.

 

[Cladyclad]

“He sucked in the playoffs”

In how many at bats?

1/12

 

[MikelArteta]

trout decaying before our very eyes as well

 

[Brozay]

How do you explain six seasons with Ohtani? Arguably two of the best players in the league and can't even make the playoffs.

What do you mean how do you explain it? Are you suggesting Trout hasn’t performed well? The rest of the team and organization has been trash. What is confusing to you about this?

 

[Cladyclad]

trout decaying before our very eyes as well

Make the thread

 

[Dipsey Doo]

How do you explain six seasons with Ohtani? Arguably two of the best players in the league and can't even make the playoffs.

Name a pitcher and/or hitter that the Angels have developed internally that has been named to an All Star Team, won a silver slugger, won a golden glove, gotten MVP votes, gotten Cy Young votes since Trout has been on the team.

 

[mvp_status]

Angels have only

You can argue Ohtani counts as two good/great players. I know it's not basketball.

Here are the teams that have made the playoffs over the Angels:
2022:
TOR, SEA
2019:
OAK
2018
OAK
2017
MIN
2016
TOR, BAL
2015:
TEX, HOU

what's the purpose of listing those teams

 

[Remote]

Just curious: are you an Angel / Trout fan? You negged me for this thread...it's really not that serious. My ultimate point is this guy gets so much props and plays in a big market with an owner who spends a lot of money, albeit stupidly.

In Trout's career, it's not like he's been in the AL East with 3 or even 4 good/great teams. They've only managed to win 90+ games once.

Of course, it's not all his fault, but how can this guy not have ONE playoff win in his HoF career?

He's the new Ernie Banks. Except, for the majority of Banks' career, only one team in his league made the playoffs.

Jesus Christ.

If you understand that it’s not all his fault, how do you turn around and then make it his fault for him not winning a playoff game.

Mike Trout only plays 1 position.

 

[Remote]

1/12

3 games worth of at bats.

That’s what y’all are bashing trout for.

Half a week’s worth of at bats.

 

[Aje]

what's the purpose of listing those teams

Most, if not all, of those teams had less than 90 wins and were rather "mid". Point was to show even these teams were able to make it to/win a plot game.

The kid obviously rakes (despite a current down year) and I know he can't win it by himself. But it's still wild he's got zero playoff wins. Especially, with expanded playoffs and the like.

If you don't think the following is nuts, then I don't know what to say.

Teams with at least one playoff win since Trout's debut:

1. Yankees
2. Red Sox
3. Blue Jays
4. Rays
5. Orioles
6. Royals
7. Indians/Guardians
8. Tigers
9. White Sox
10. Astros
11. Rangers
12. Athletics
13. Mariners
14. Marlins
15. Phillies
16. Mets
17. Braves
18. Nationals
19. Cardinals
20. Pirates
21. Brewers
22. Reds
23. Cubs
24. Dodgers
25. Giants
26. Padres
27. Diamondbacks
28. Rockies

*The only other team to not have one playoff win since Trout's debut is Minnesota, but, at least, they made the playoffs thrice.

 

[Aje]

Jesus Christ.

If you understand that it’s not all his fault, how do you turn around and then make it his fault for him not winning a playoff game.

Mike Trout only plays 1 position.

Not his fault, but more that it's insane that this is the case.

Relax, broski.

 

[triplehate]

That's too bad. It's baseball tho

 

[IIVI]

I don't care what you say, that's just not a good look for your sport. When you have to follow-up and explain why a x3 MVP, potentially top 10 player of all-time has no play-off wins then most people aren't trying to listen.

I mean even somebody like Jokic who had a better case winning MVP this year than any other year had to be stopped from receiving an MVP award.
At some point the postseason shortcomings should hinder the regular voting otherwise your sport looks weak and dilutes the awards.
You want your MVP winners to still be mentioned in the post season for maximum league advertisement.

A stat like that would get somebody clowned in an NFL discussion if they said something like that - another sport where players can be impacted by their teams.