Microsoft is clearly LEADING us into the next gen, the world of business has taken notice!

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Catch 22 time....

So then you're saying gamepass is a success because of Microsoft's first party offerings, so thank you for holding xbox console exclusives in such high regard :whew: you my nikka champ! I mean, I was told from your peers that xbox don't have shyt so shyt can't make gamepass a great deal. If you don't believe me try out this service called PSnow. Lots of shyt, they got ps1,2,3,4 games on there, you can stream them n shyt, same price now I hear. Heard y'all sales jumped to like 2 million subscribers out of 110 million possible customers. I mean sure numbers don't lie, forget the 108 million Sony gamers who said I'm good, there are still 2 million subscribers. That's like killzone knack numbers. You know you doing something right when you are compared to heavyweights like that :wow:
brah i dont get in these console war convos. Believe what you want to believe from what i said...
you really typed a paragraph :mjlol:
 

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The fact Xbox is about to get cloud gaming, games being automatically cross platform between xbox and PC, 8K, 120 FPS gaming?

Anyone not fukking with Xbox is just pouring jelly on themselves

For my broke nikkas, go and buy 2 shared of MSFT stock RIGHT NOW.

By the time this console is released, i PROMISE you'll be able to afford it.
 

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50 million of anything sold is quite a bit.

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It's more than all three of these combined with room to spare.

That said, you bring up the fact that Sony makes more money than Microsoft, which is true. However, given that fact, that is why I think Microsoft is going to do more cost cutting measures because the Xbox division has always been a loss leader for other things. This is the first generation where Microsoft is going to use the Xbox brand for more than just a trojan horse for Windows. The plans are bigger than just Windows but there is an understanding that they need gaming to do it, Xbox is still a means to an end but now they have a gamer in charge and not a suit. They will lose money here and there to win their war. Sony is far more reliant on sales from PSN and other outlets for profitability. Yes, we always talk about the Microsoft warchest but I have a feeling it may weigh itself on the scales more this generation than we have seen previously.


so much wrong info in this post I dont even know which sentence or point to start with, its like it progressively got worse with complete lies or false info

Sony makes more money than Microsoft? I dont even know why i bothered to read past that first part :mjlol:
 

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50 million of anything sold is quite a bit.

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It's more than all three of these combined with room to spare.

That said, you bring up the fact that Sony makes more money than Microsoft, which is true. However, given that fact, that is why I think Microsoft is going to do more cost cutting measures because the Xbox division has always been a loss leader for other things. This is the first generation where Microsoft is going to use the Xbox brand for more than just a trojan horse for Windows. The plans are bigger than just Windows but there is an understanding that they need gaming to do it, Xbox is still a means to an end but now they have a gamer in charge and not a suit. They will lose money here and there to win their war. Sony is far more reliant on sales from PSN and other outlets for profitability. Yes, we always talk about the Microsoft warchest but I have a feeling it may weigh itself on the scales more this generation than we have seen previously.
On a side note, I can't believe how clunky and dated the Wii U looks :picard:

It looks at home next to a Dreamcast :picard:
 

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so much wrong info in this post I dont even know which sentence or point to start with, its like it progressively got worse with complete lies or false info

Sony makes more money than Microsoft? I dont even know why i bothered to read past that first part :mjlol:

Sony makes more money from gaming than Microsoft. So, outside of the misstatement, where are there lies?

Xbox was created as a way to ward off competitors to Windows. It's name is short for Direct X Box. Hence the reason that windows ce is in the Dreamcast. Sony uses gaming for profitability purposes now. The Playstation division saved the damn company from irrelevance.

Sony: saved by the PlayStation?

People get caught up in paying attention to the front of the jersey rather than the name on the back.

Kuturagi, Hirai, Tretton & Layden isn't in charge anymore. Jack Ross runs Playstation now and their former CFO is now the CEO and anybody in his position is going to look at profitability over cost cutting measures to expand market share. Sony sold the PS3 with a $200 loss on each unit at launch. Sony of today isn't going to lose a damn thing on the PS5 at launch. Microsoft makes their money from Windows, Office, other things. Nadella isn't stressing about Microsoft only selling what it is selling at this point. Sony and Microsoft are competing in a space where their short and long term goals are different. The Playstation division is the entire story right now for Sony, it's a minor chapter in the story for Microsoft when it comes to financial worth. Microsoft sold over 50 million consoles, basically half-assing it for the majority of the generation. What do you think a focused Microsoft is capable of?. Yes, Japan is a lost cause as a region currently but I'm sure that is already baked into the pie. Americas and Europe. Nadella has already proven to be a better CEO than Ballmer.

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This graph covers the tenure of Nadella as CEO. I post this to say this, Xbox profitability didn't factor into any of this rise in stock.

Nadella has demonstrated that he views Microsoft as a cloud-first, cloud-centric company, and that all of Microsoft’s business efforts are expected to align with that perspective

Microsoft Shares New 'Xbox Series X' Details - ExtremeTech

Game Pass & Project xCloud allows Xbox to have a major seat at the table when it comes to being involved in Microsoft's future. The Xbox is another way to get people hooked to services, not my preferred way of gaming but I understand the thought process. Gaming is just one vehicle to reach an overall goal. That said, it needs to be reasonably priced and accessible. What I've always stated is that in Phil Spencer, we will have a person that truly understands gaming so that while Microsoft strives towards its ultimate goal, gamers will not get the shaft along the way.

The Xbox Series X master plan

This puts it way better than I did here.

As Microsoft prepares to launch its next-generation Xbox Series X console, the company is ready for its most ambitious foray into gaming. But it’s not just about the console.

As well as introducing a powerful new piece of hardware, the company is embarking on a spectrum of distributive innovations that mirror profound transformations in the way games are bought, distributed, and played. These encompass subscription services like Xbox Game Pass as well as the in-development Project xCloud.

All this is a lot, much of it seemingly contradictory. On the one hand, Microsoft wants to carry on selling incrementally better consumer electronics devices, backed by $60 software purchases. On the other hand, it’s also interested in running a Netflix-style buffet service, and a cloud-based game streaming service that may not even require ownership of an Xbox.

Through Xbox All Access, Microsoft is even trialing a mobile phone-style subscription service that includes the console and an inherent upgrade path.

As a piece of hardware, the Xbox Series X is a significant technological step up from the Xbox One, but the central point of its introduction has little to do with sharper-looking games and faster loading times. This generation is going to be transformative in terms of how people play, rather than what they play.

In interviews with leading analysts, we’ve tried to piece together Microsoft’s current thinking about gaming in the next decade, and how the company is approaching the Xbox Series X — not merely as a new console, but as a component of a much wider attempt to broaden the company’s appeal in gaming.

Digging into executive interviews, and the views of those analysts who spend time with Microsoft decision-makers, it’s clear that the company sees this generation as a series of bets designed to secure its position in the traditional console sector, while defending itself from aggressive new competitors likely to make use of the cloud as a distributive platform — companies like Amazon and Google.

Microsoft recognizes that it has power in the form of brand loyalists, and in its ability to produce showpiece video games. But it’s also aware that a new generation of players is growing up, a cohort for whom mobility, convenience, and connectivity are more important than fidelity and power.

Put another way, the Xbox Series X is Microsoft hedging its bets on gaming’s future.

Whether or not they will be successful is anyone's guess. I'm just saying, Microsoft isn't going to let a silly thing like price stop them from trying. That much, I do know.

Expect the world's wealthiest company to not figure this market out sooner or later brehs, lol.
 

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@Rekkapryde didn't you say Sony is making profit in their other divisions besides Playstation? I think you and @itsyoung!! were discussing something like that.
He said Sony (the company) makes more money than Microsoft (the company). Which is billions of dollars away from the truth. I originally thought he meant ps vs xbox, but his next sentence mentioned the xbox division so to me he was talking about the companies and that’s ludicrous

if talking ps vs xbox profit then yes ps makes more
 

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I don't know anybody that has an Xbox.
Thanks for practicing social distancing :handshake:
He said Sony (the company) makes more money than Microsoft (the company). Which is billions of dollars away from the truth. I originally thought he meant ps vs xbox, but his next sentence mentioned the xbox division so to me he was talking about the companies and that’s ludicrous

if talking ps vs xbox profit then yes ps makes more
Well PSnow doesn't make more then gamepass.
And Sony does lie alot :patrice:

Have they ever released how many active psn subscriptions they have? I know they wouldn't tell those numbers a few years ago :smugbiden:
 

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He said Sony (the company) makes more money than Microsoft (the company).

:mjlol:

@Fatboi1 please disregard. Nobody said no dumb shyt like this. I said that @itsyoung!! argument that without Playstation that Sony would be out of business was a lie. Their financials completely say otherwise. Then I found out the sad truth the homie didn't know how to read corporate financial statements.
 

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He said Sony (the company) makes more money than Microsoft (the company). Which is billions of dollars away from the truth. I originally thought he meant ps vs xbox, but his next sentence mentioned the xbox division so to me he was talking about the companies and that’s ludicrous

if talking ps vs xbox profit then yes ps makes more

:mjlol:

@Fatboi1 please disregard. Nobody said no dumb shyt like this. I said that @itsyoung!! argument that without Playstation that Sony would be out of business was a lie. Their financials completely say otherwise. Then I found out the sad truth the homie didn't know how to read corporate financial statements.
I figured PlayStation was very profitable but I don't think ONLY PlayStation was making Sony money.
 

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@Fatboi1 please disregard. Nobody said no dumb shyt like this. I said that @itsyoung!! argument that without Playstation that Sony would be out of business was a lie. Their financials completely say otherwise. Then I found out the sad truth the homie didn't know how to read corporate financial statements.
I figured PlayStation was very profitable but I don't think ONLY PlayStation was making Sony money.

they havnt had a profitable year since 2015 in any division but Playstation and some spikes in their movies with Spiderman, tied in with most of their net worth being from the 80s and 90s to accumulate most their wealth. according to the reports to not go bankrupt they had to lie off thousands of employees and cut off majority of their divisions. These are facts.

Their stock being down 50% from its peak in 2000, even prior to COVID19, despite the announcement of the playstation 5. These are facts.

our friend @Rekkapryde has some blind fold on or some shyt when pointing out the financials, the reports he posted himself shows Sony hasnt turned a profit since 2015 from any division but Playstation, just negative across the board.

oh yeah, their was another positive in the 2017 or 2018 report, after Sony fired thousands of employees saving them from bankruptcy, was in Payroll :mjlol: from firing people :bryan:

great company.

They have massive wealth from the 80s and 90s and when PS4 dropped. But they're on borrowed time. They basically have Spider Man and Playstation, enough to fuel a fancy limousine, but they are trying to fly a jumbo jet. If that makes sense. They'll eventually run out of fuel if PS5 isnt as successful as PS4.
 

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they havnt had a profitable year since 2015 in any division but Playstation and some spikes in their movies with Spiderman, tied in with most of their net worth being from the 80s and 90s to accumulate most their wealth. according to the reports to not go bankrupt they had to lie off thousands of employees and cut off majority of their divisions. These are facts.

Their stock being down 50% from its peak in 2000, even prior to COVID19, despite the announcement of the playstation 5. These are facts.

our friend @Rekkapryde has some blind fold on or some shyt when pointing out the financials, the reports he posted himself shows Sony hasnt turned a profit since 2015 from any division but Playstation, just negative across the board.

oh yeah, their was another positive in the 2017 or 2018 report, after Sony fired thousands of employees saving them from bankruptcy, was in Payroll :mjlol: from firing people :bryan:

great company.

They have massive wealth from the 80s and 90s and when PS4 dropped. But they're on borrowed time. They basically have Spider Man and Playstation, enough to fuel a fancy limousine, but they are trying to fly a jumbo jet. If that makes sense. They'll eventually run out of fuel if PS5 isnt as successful as PS4.

not going thru this again with you.....stop the :troll:
 
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