Michael Jordan, Jerry Stackhouse, and Vince Carter are an interesting charactor study

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He surpassed him by 1986.

Some players have the mentality to be the best, some don't.
VC was definitely on his way in 2000. Dude just became content with having an okay career, nothing more.
Stack was never all that, period.

Carter had an ok career? :rudy:


Dude was an annual all star putting up big numbers his entire career and made bank
 

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Carter had an ok career? :rudy:


Dude was an annual all star putting up big numbers his entire career and made bank
By okay I meant HOF worthy, at least Top 50.
He never made that jump. There are plenty of players like him.
Nice but not legendary, except for his dunks.
 

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Reggie miller bytch ass in the HOF so Vince carter a lock
Fukk that sh1t man. Reggie shouldn't even be in.
The basketball HOF is a joke anyway. Drazen Petrovic, Drazen Dalipagic, Dino Meneghin, Kresimir Cosic, Sergei Belov are in the HOF...
Bernard King, Sidney Moncrief, Spencer Haywood aren't :smh:
 

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Fukk that sh1t man. Reggie shouldn't even be in.
The basketball HOF is a joke anyway. Drazen Petrovic, Drazen Dalipagic, Dino Meneghin, Kresimir Cosic, Sergei Belov are in the HOF...
Bernard King, Sidney Moncrief, Spencer Haywood aren't :smh:

Basketball HOF is a joke, there should be an NBA HOF, then hoes like Reggie miller wouldn't sniff it


But it is what it is and carter getting in easy if miller got in when was never even a top 10-15 in the NBA at any point in his career
 

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I thought Stackhouse would've had a better NBA career than VC.

As for Jordan, I'm pretty sure nobody knew he'd be as good as he was.

And if you say you saw in UNC Jordan, a player who would be the greatest NBA player of alltime, YOU are a liar.

not true....as a kid.

my first favorite hometown ball player was rod hotrod stickland.

every year as a kid i saw georgetown vs depaul before strickland as well

yet and still jordan was a huge enigma as a player.

to the point older guys in my dad's gen, when mj was in college said,..i think we are watching the best bball player of all time possibly.

now these are guys that have seen the other legends for real.

now,..i am a kid and only a blue demons fan. so i did not understand why someone would say that about another out of town plAyer on another team.

that is also how i became interested in other teams solidly.

as a kid,....i understood what the animosity was from other fans of out of town teams was. as my dad rooted for georgetown,..and would get evil stares from the blue devil contingent.

plus a huge gtown fan cause he is from maryland..plus i know the thorn jordan was in gtown's side.

as he singlehandidly blanked gtown from a title.

my dad even complied about jordan beimg that good drafted collegiate, as a pro. back then a pro player would be given acclaim.

yet it wasn't on jordan's grassroots level as the draft approached.

so jordan was always more special than vince and stack,..plus on a grassroots cult like level. he was regarded on a higher level than every ball player, from a collegiate level as well.

turns out jordan is drafted and the talk comes true about him being the possible greatest.


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I don't think the gap was big at all. 95 stackhouse vs 95 jordan wasn't a major difference in athleticism. You can say how you feel as definitevly as you'd like.

you could not have seen the jordan.

i have had enough of you stack games.

when, mj hoe'd stack.

if you watch enough clips of jordan.

without seeing the game jordan vs stack games posession to possession.

that actual game moments of mike sonning stack stands out.


the fake stack out his shoes and hit the three is a common jordan film highlight.

i saw mike easily eclipse stack.

on court numerous times, and definately in 95.

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VC is one of my favorite b-ball players of all-time, but he never really cared to be THE guy. He was cool just being one of the guys on the team. He definitely had the talent, I guess he just didn't have the desire. In his final days with Toronto, he was cool with coming off the bench and playing with the second team.


i think this was obvious at unc.

as i felt vc really never showed enough.

also,....i used to feel dean would shackle players a bit,....

yet in vince's case he never worked hard enough to digest.

what hurdle dean purposefully propped up in his way.

so he could vault over to grow as a player.

for later on to resource when he was a pro.

plus vince never seemed to give a damn either.

vc was just content wih what vc initially was, and that seemed to be fine to him.

yet he had athletic/physical talent to be much more.

like last year's best dunk, in the whole season.

did not count because vc slammed it through on, a busted play.

stopped in mid play from a early ref called foul on the play.

this dude vc continues the play after the whistle and three sixty dunks a between the leg jam, in the stopped play traffic.

then the rest of the game pretty much does nuffin after shooting his freethrows.

that type of display and later gameplay is telling of vc's career as a play.

does a bunch when it counts for nuffin. then doesn't care past his highlights no matter how they occur.

mj was never like that,..and to stack's credit. stack tried more with less ability and social graces.

to at least put forth more effort, than the more brilliantly talented vc.



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I can rock with this. No heart havin' b*stard.

method displays way more heart, than vc.

as his late career album of the year and ability to ramp up his skills in a rap climate with an everchanging sonic sounscape and climate. that most of his peers/contemporaries never learned to mesh and ramp up skills in.


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