Miami Heat 2015 Offseason thread: Reload, Retool, and most importantly, Recover

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As much as we trash Chalmers, he did say he was didn't even know his role last year. I think since we are deeper and hopefully healthier, he should be more consistent this year.
one of those guys needs to go away. forever:camby:
It doesnt have to be Chalmers that goes. But i just dont see us keeping 4 PGs/CGs (Combo guards) on the roster.

Heat has shown they're willing to invest in Josh Richardson by giving him a 3 year deal. Right now our PG/CG deph goes Dragic, Chalmers, T.Johnson and Josh Richardson.
And not to mention, Winslow is undersized as a SF so look for him to play a lot at SG depending on matchups...:umad:
With that said, i dont see any way e keep all these off/Combo guards on the roster.Im going to guess Tyler Johnson may be the odd man out.
 

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Amare Stoudemire spent some time with Dwyane Wade in New York this summer, sipping wine at a trendy hotspot and talking basketball.

He's been texting and talking with Chris Bosh regularly. He's considered himself close with Goran Dragic for years, going back to their time together with the Phoenix Suns.

Plus, he's called Miami home for about seven years already.

So getting acclimated to being part of the Heat, that won't be a big deal for the forward who will be entering his 14th NBA season — and first with Miami — when training camp opens in about a month. He knows many of his new teammates such as Wade, Bosh and Dragic. He knows the city, and most of all he thinks that he can rekindle the All-Star form he had not long ago.

"We can be a really good team," Stoudemire said. "No one thought that the Golden State Warriors would be champions this time last year. We knew they'd be a really good team, but no one thought they'd be world champions. With us, we know we're a really good team. No one thinks we can be world champions, but you never know."

Stoudemire went back to school on Monday, appearing with some other members of the Heat staff at an elementary school in Fort Lauderdale on the first day of the new academic year in South Florida.

He posed for photos and helped hand out some gifts to ecstatic kids in what essentially was his first public appearance for the team since signing a one-year, $1.5 million deal last month.

"I just live life," Stoudemire said." I try to enjoy it. I try to create positive energy when I can, I try to affect people in a positive way and just live life."

For the kids, the new season of sorts started Monday.

For Stoudemire, while it won't officially start for a few more weeks, prepping for 2015-16 in reality started long ago. He's taking care of his body, but also said he believes that Heat President Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra have the right formula to both extend the careers of veteran players while also getting the best from them.

"From playing against Miami, the thing that you learn is that they always have a competitive spirit," Stoudemire said. "There's an aura around here that everyone works hard, that you have to be in top shape which is great because I want to be in the best shape of my life going into this season. I want to surprise the world and have a very, very productive year."

Stoudemire, who turns 33 in November, averaged 11.5 points in 59 games for New York and Dallas last season. He said he feels like he's not far removed from the 2010-11 season in which he averaged a career-best 25.3 points per game.

But he's played in only 200 games (out of a possible 312) in the four years since, and still isn't entirely certain what his role will be with the Heat.

"Just four years ago I was an MVP candidate and an All-Star," Stoudemire said. "I feel like I can still get back to that All-Star level of play. If I can achieve that, then that's going to help the team in its entirety. ... I will accept whatever the role is."

Stoudemire has faced the Heat as an opponent 29 times, none more infamous than the first-round playoff game when he was with the Knicks in 2012. Miami won 104-94 and Stoudemire smashed his hand on a metal fire-extinguisher casing on his way from the court to the locker room after the game, causing a deep cut that was tended to by paramedics on-site.

He was the butt of jokes from Heat fans for that one.

Now those same fans are hoping Stoudemire has plenty left to offer.

"Stay tuned," Stoudemire said. "At this point, I don't know what I'm going to bring. My goal is to become a better player than I was last year, expand on what I did last year. I have a lot of skill set left in this body and I want to show that."
 

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For those who will come in here crying foul when Winslow doesnt get to play 35 minutes in a game. Keep this in mind. Interesting perspective when you look at it

I see 26 mpg max if he's guarding NBA SFs on defense.

Will Justise Winslow grow into a small forward?

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Will Justise Winslow grow into a small forward?

Given ample time for the young rookie to grow physically and mentally in the pro ranks, Winslow should be able to develop into a complete NBA player on the Heat's terms.

Only 19 years old, 6'6" Justise Winslow can still add an inch or two to his height and 25 pounds to his frame topping out at 6'8" and 245 lbs., to become a powerful small forward able to challenge anyone in the NBA.

The science of auxology (human growth) indicates that at age 19, men are still developing their strength until they reach their physical peak in their early 20's. Derrick Rose, as is Greg Oden, is a cautionary tale about over-playing a developing body that needs time to fully mature. While teenagers, school gave them both a breather to rest, but once in the pros the intense physical activity overwhelmed their bodies.

At 19, Rose suffered tendinitis playing Summer League basketball. In his first season as a pro, he won Rookie of the Year honors playing heavy minutes leading the Chicago Bullsto the playoffs. Next season (20 years old) he had an ankle injury in his first preseason game. At 21, he was an All-Star and at 22 a MVP playing a 97-game season. By 23 he tore the ACL in his left knee.

LeBron James fortunately, for his body, played on lottery teams during his first two formative seasons in the NBA, so he was not subjected to the grind of post-season play while he was still growing into his body. Michael Jordan's Bulls did not go past the first round in the playoffs until he was 24 years old. Incidentally at 22 Jordan missed 64 games with a broken foot, giving him time to complete his growth into super-stardom.

Many are clamoring for Winslow to be an immediate starter and go from playing 40 40-minute games in college to possibly 100 48-minute games in the NBA if the Heat go deep in the postseason, i.e. 1600 minute schedule to a 4800 minute schedule in a single season. If Winslow starts he risks suffering the same fate as Rose, however remote the chances are.

An orthopedic web site recommends stretching and even an ankle brace during practice to prevent needless sprains or stress fractures from overuse. Interestingly as Winslow becomes stronger, a boxing site focused on developing hand-eye coordination and footwork, notes being left-handed may be natural since, "It’s common for the left shoulder to be higher because of the way the organs are distributed in the body and the difference in size of the lungs."

Already Justise had ankle issues after playing for three games in a row during Summer League and his minutes dropped significantly during the Las Vegas tournament after playing consistently in Orlando. His body simply was not ready for the sudden shock of playing or practicing every day, that the NBA brings.

By 22 years old he will reach full strength and become a force to reckoned with in the paint area, but only if he allows his body to develop at its own pace. Both James and Jordan won their first rings only after their 25th birthday, so time is on Winslow's side.

Hassan Whiteside last season was not the same player the Sacramento Kings drafted in 2010 when was 21. After maturing for four years and avoiding injury with limited playing time, he was able to fulfill his full potential at 25 years of age. Keith "Kito" Benson has become a different and far more stronger player than the Heat saw in 2011 with the Sioux Falls Skyforce. Ready to contribute immediately he could earn a roster spot as a backup to Whiteside, provided he proves he is worthy of it.

Pat Riley is a big believer in players being physically ready -- that is over 23 -- to fully contribute to a championship team. He has a good reason for that, because men at 19, 20, or even 21 have not filled enough to deal with brutal 4800+ minute NBA schedule. Agility and quickness decrease after age 20, but today's NBA places a premium on power, which peaks at 25 years of age.

The Philadelphia 76ers have not had any luck with Joel Embiid, the Bucks with Jabari Parker, nor the Jazz with Dante Exum. The Miami Heat will be cautious with their prized rookies Justise Winslow and Josh Richardson, who have All-Star careers ahead of them, to let their bodies reach full potential without injuries getting in the way. Rookie of the Year may be a noble achievement, but Miami Heat fans prefer their team hoist the championship trophy in 2016. And in 2017, 2018, etc.

At potentially 6'8" tall and 245 pounds, Justise Winslow will become an imposing presence in the NBA three years from now. By then Richardson will be 25 years old and in his prime physically and mentally. Along with Whiteside they will be able to shoulder the physical burden of the Heat's expectations, as Wade, Bosh, Dragic, and Deng finish out their careers.

Hopefully Heat fans will temper their expectations this season, as other rookies fall by the wayside with stress injuries due to their bodies not being fully able to take the punishing 82-game regular season and/or the 100 game NBA championship season.
 

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As much as we trash Chalmers, he did say he was didn't even know his role last year. I think since we are deeper and hopefully healthier, he should be more consistent this year.
chalmers is a good point guard... bone headed with the steals.. but dude is good.. SURE.. put him against the top tier and he will strugle most of the time...

but at least this guy has some go to moves..

to me he is definitely worth 4 mil.
 

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chalmers is a good point guard... bone headed with the steals.. but dude is good.. SURE.. put him against the top tier and he will strugle most of the time...

but at least this guy has some go to moves..

to me he is definitely worth 4 mil.
I wouldnt call him a good PG.

He's a good player, period. But surely not a good PG. You can look up my posts on here and back on SOHH you'll see me say over and over again Chalmers has NO court vision. Thus why I preferred Carlos Arroyo when it was the two of them playing PG. Arroyo cant score like Chalmers can (face it at his size Chalmers is a good scorer) but Arroyo had bettr vision. He didnt constantly dribble up court with hi head down and missing wide open teammates like Chalmers. Chalmers has improved a lot in that area because he was so bad at it. But still not to the extent i'd call him a good PG.

With that said, im not pushing him out because we need his energy off the bench. But I see Josh Richardson being a bigger, better and more athletic version of Chalmers in a few years. I dont Chalmers to stunt his development if we have no plans to keep Chalmers
 
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