Miami Heat 2015 Offseason thread: Reload, Retool, and most importantly, Recover

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I dont know... I have not heard of any dominant PG in the draft that would be better than Dragic so a wing player with our pick it would be great. Either an SF or S that can be groomed to replace Wade in a few years. I'd say we're set at C and PF for the next 3-4 years with Bosh and WhiteSide.
 
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Spo is flawed but he's not bad. I went back and looked at the season. Spo was dealt a bad hand.

A bunch of fluke injuries, having to deal with a bunch of other injury prone or recently healed players, managing minutes with said injury prone players, and trying to field a competitive team that went through multiple d league players like crazy.

Our team was flawed from the jump. We had a severe lack of shooting from the perimeter and Bosh was forced to, again, drift out so he could open lanes for our non-shooting perimeter players.

Honestly, even Pop would struggle if he was given our team and our situation.

Spo's strengths are he's a surprisingly good judge of talent (He has an eye for good players and good fits, like Riley), he's good at getting players to develop weaknesses in game, and he's a decent at game to game adjustments.
 

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If we can find a dominant PG or whing with our pick it would be great. I'd say we're set at C and PF for the next 3-4 years with Bosh and WhiteSide.

I don't think we need a "dominant PG". We need a solid defensive PG, that can hit the 3 and play defense..like Beverly but if Dragic stays, we're golden.

We need a solid 2 that can shoot the 3. Someone that can learn from Wade and back him up while we mold him Plus get some burn with the starters.

I think Johnson / Ennis / Napier have some potential to be a perfect bench squad that can be groomed into solid players depending on who we choose to build around or our offensive style.
 
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Spo is flawed but he's not bad. I went back and looked at the season. Spo was dealt a bad hand.

A bunch of fluke injuries, having to deal with a bunch of other injury prone or recently healed players, managing minutes with said injury prone players, and trying to field a competitive team that went through multiple d league players like crazy.

Our team was flawed from the jump. We had a severe lack of shooting from the perimeter and Bosh was forced to, again, drift out so he could open lanes for our non-shooting perimeter players.

Honestly, even Pop would struggle if he was given our team and our situation.

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Ive always said Spo isnt as bad as some Heat fans make him out to be. He's a good young coach. Just tries too hard to outsmart everyone sometimes and overlooks the EASY adjustments/substitutions that make a difference.

He's lost us some games, no doubt. But we often forget the ones he's one us. Even Lebron went out of his way to give him props when accepting the Finals MVP after the Finals when we won against OKC.
Spo's strengths are he's a surprisingly good judge of talent (He has an eye for good players and good fits, like Riley), he's good at getting players to develop weaknesses in game, and he's a decent at game to game adjustments.
See, now this is where we disagree strongly.

Edit: Well let me rephrase that: I have never forgiven Spoelstra for being the main reason Riley drafted Beasley.

Many Heat fans hate Spo for not playing Beasley or hating Beasley but thats not necessarilly true. Before that draft, after finally meeting him in person RILEY PUBLICLY MADE IT CLEAR that he didnt want Beasley. But Spoelstra and Keith Askins and others kept pushing for Beas. THIS is what many of you fools forget. Ira even wrote an article about it pre-draft talking about Spoelstra and Riley being in a Skybox watching Beasley play in some exhibition game and Spoelstra praising Beasley while Riley sat there UNIMPRESSED because of Beasley's lack of size and work ethics.

So Beasley was mainly Spo's pick so Spo had every reason to make Beasley successful. But Beasley let him down from the jump so if i was Spo i'd hate the fukka too. I've been in his position before after i hired someone despite my boss's objection and ended up regretting it and looking bad in front of my boss. So in that sense, yes, i can see how Spo would hate BEasley.
 

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I don't think we need a "dominant PG". We need a solid defensive PG, that can hit the 3 and play defense..like Beverly but if Dragic stays, we're golden.

We need a solid 2 that can shoot the 3. Someone that can learn from Wade and back him up while we mold him Plus get some burn with the starters.

I think Johnson / Ennis / Napier have some potential to be a perfect bench squad that can be groomed into solid players depending on who we choose to build around or our offensive style.
i edited my post. Dont know why i keep forgetting Dragic even tho resigning him is our #1 priority this summer
 

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Cant tell if its just the black or not but fukkin Wade lookin slimmer than he did all season :stopitslime: but come opening night he'll be back to 225



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Little Known Black History Fact: Virginia Key Beach, Paradise Lost
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By Erica Taylor, The Tom Joyner Morning Show

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Virginia Key Beach was designed as a unique vacation spot strictly for blacks in 1945. Built in Dade County, Virginia Key Beach was the answer to Florida’s whites-only beach problem pre-civil rights. Prior to its establishment, NAACP activists staged a “wade-in” at nearby Baker’s Haulover Beach, which was whites-only. Although the organization had hoped for a spectacle and arrest, the city officials refused to acknowledge their request and decided to address the issue with segregation. That prompted the birth of “Virginia Key Beach, a Dade County Park for the exclusive use of Negroes,” in 1945.

For two years after its creation, black families from across the country visited the beach, which was accessible by boat only. When Rickenbacker Causeway was built in 1947, it connected Virginia Key and Key Biscayne with land, making it possible to travel by vehicle to the half-mile long beach.

The beach property was equipped with a mini-railroad that carried people from one side to the next. There was a carousel, which has been restored for park-goers today.

Conditions of Virginia Key Beach began to decline when the nearby white beach residents of Crandon needed a place to pump sewage and dump garbage. They utilized the nearest outlet of Virginia Key Beach. Although the environmental conditions became unfavorable, blacks continued to frequent the beach until post-civil rights when segregation was banned and blacks could go to the larger former whites-only beaches. By 1982, Virginia Key Beach had been transferred to the City of Miami and transformed to park status. It was soon closed and abandoned due to lack of maintenance funds from the city.

Through the careful consideration and responsibility of a small group of city activists in Miami, Virginia Key Beach was placed on the National Register of Historic Places and given a Florida historical marker in fall 2002.

In just 2008, the Virginia Key Beach Park Trust re-opened the site and it is now Florida’s ecological paradise. The Miami Seaquarium is a marine park on Virginia Key that has one of the world’s largest collections of marine animals. The new site showcases the historic bathhouse and includes a mountain biking park.

The Board of Trustees and staff of Virginia Key Beach Park Trust now invite beach seekers to enjoy the historic Biscayne Virginia Rickenbacker Central, which once toted black families of the 1940’s around the first black beach in America.

http://blackamericaweb.com/2013/02/...istory-fact-virginia-key-beach-paradise-lost/

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The story begins in 1896. This was the year the City of Miami was founded with approximately one-third of the signatures of the city charter being black men (which was no accident considering their predominant role in the early building of the city). Segregation became a day-to-day reality throughout the South. It was this reality that systematically excluded all people of color from Dade County’s most famous attraction, its miles of beaches.

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@Intruder v3.0 who did Riley want instead? I don't remember
He wanted to trade the pick. That he made clear on national TV at the draft lottery, when asked. Dont know if he was baiting someone into a trade.

But everyone and their mama knew Riley wasnt sold on Beasley. There was talk of O.J. Mayo being an option and it even more noise when Wade and Mayo were training together in Chicago. Riley even met with Mayo. I dont think Riley ever even bothered to look at WestBrook or Kevin Love
 

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He wanted to trade the pick. That he made clear on national TV at the draft lottery, when asked. Dont know if he was baiting someone into a trade.

But everyone and their mama knew Riley wasnt sold on Beasley. There was talk of O.J. Mayo being an option and it even more noise when Wade and Mayo were training together in Chicago. Riley even met with Mayo. I dont think Riley ever even bothered to look at WestBrook or Kevin Love
I was looking at the 2009 draft and saw Riley traded that 1st rd pick, Atoine Walker, and a couple jabronis for Ricky fukkING Davis :francis:
 

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Ive always said Spo isnt as bad as some Heat fans make him out to be. He's a good young coach. Just tries too hard to outsmart everyone sometimes and overlooks the EASY adjustments/substitutions that make a difference.

He's lost us some games, no doubt. But we often forget the ones he's one us. Even Lebron went out of his way to give him props when accepting the Finals MVP after the Finals when we won against OKC.
See, now this is where we disagree strongly.

Edit: Well let me rephrase that: I have never forgiven Spoelstra for being the main reason Riley drafted Beasley.

Many Heat fans hate Spo for not playing Beasley or hating Beasley but thats not necessarilly true. Before that draft, after finally meeting him in person RILEY PUBLICLY MADE IT CLEAR that he didnt want Beasley. But Spoelstra and Keith Askins and others kept pushing for Beas. THIS is what many of you fools forget. Ira even wrote an article about it pre-draft talking about Spoelstra and Riley being in a Skybox watching Beasley play in some exhibition game and Spoelstra praising Beasley while Riley sat there UNIMPRESSED because of Beasley's lack of size and work ethics.

So Beasley was mainly Spo's pick so Spo had every reason to make Beasley successful. But Beasley let him down from the jump so if i was Spo i'd hate the fukka too. I've been in his position before after i hired someone despite my boss's objection and ended up regretting it and looking bad in front of my boss. So in that sense, yes, i can see how Spo would hate BEasley.

Eh, it's easy to have a mis-draft but Spo still has an eye. He was the one who pulled for Birdman and pitched how he was perfect for our team when no one else gave him a chance then we went on a 22 game winning streak.

He also had noted Whiteside before we picked him up and saw what a steal he could be.
 
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I was looking at the 2009 draft and saw Riley traded that 1st rd pick, Atoine Walker, and a couple jabronis for Ricky fukkING Davis :francis:
We all know deep down Riley gives 0 fukks about drafts or young players for that matter. But in 2008 he and Wade were in love with Derrick Rose. When we didnt get the #1 pick he made it clear how pissed and dissapointed he was on national TV when that chick from ESPN approached him as he walked off the stage.
 
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it kills me that we are not in the playoffs this year....so many hyped up teams in the conference that ain't bout shyt
 
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