Memorize lines vs feeding lines via ear piece

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Advantage? What’s stopping actors who feel they need to use it from using it?


A leak or admission wouldn’t change a thing for me. I think your position would have more merit for stage plays. But for movies/TV I know what I’m watching didn’t really take place in one continuous time period, so I don’t see how this would be any different than taking multiple takes to get the scene right.
So you're telling me that Samuel L's pulp fiction classic scene wouldn't lose some appeal knowing somebody was feeding him lines for a film?

I ignorantly thought the use of ear pieces was limited to unforeseen physical/mental problems during production, so now I also have the same question as you, what's stopping others?
Regardless of movie or play....the actors who are allowed to use it has an advantage because there's once less responsibility to be concerned about...it's like automatic vs manual transmission
 

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With the constant interference of studio higher-ups trying to make the same lowest-common-denominator pap for everyone and constant rewrites, that's probably a necessity at this point. Any solid actor will simply lean more on their improv abilities.

What that means industry-wide long term is another story.
 
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So you're telling me that Samuel L's pulp fiction classic scene wouldn't lose some appeal knowing somebody was feeding him lines for a film?

I ignorantly thought the use of ear pieces was limited to unforeseen physical/mental problems during production, so now I also have the same question as you, what's stopping others?
Regardless of movie or play....the actors who are allowed to use it has an advantage because there's once less responsibility to be concerned about...it's like automatic vs manual transmission

nothing is stopping others. I’m sure it would be distracting to some and many would prefer not to have someone talking in their ear.

no I could not care any less about wether Samuel L Jackson was being fed lines. The performance is what I’m enjoying. How they pulled the performance off is irrelevant to me. whether it’s getting fed lines, wearing a fat suit, elaborate makeup, ingenious camera angles, whatever, I don’t care what trickery they use as long as I can’t tell that they’re using it.

It’s like Jay-Z makes a big deal about doing his songs in one take. That may be an impressive skill, but it’s not one that makes me like his music any more or less.
 

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I guess it's not a problem since you still gotta perform in character.
He might be able to give the character more depth if he knew the script and practiced the feeling behind the line. That's probably why it just seems like he's playing himself in every role. Kinda limits himself by reacting on the spot
 
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My friend pointed out that RDJ also said in interview that the ear piece helped him with the accent of Sherlock. So he had a brit feeding him lines too? cmon B. dikk Van Dyke side eyeing from the grave

The Film Room has established itself as a legit source of info about Film/TV/Innanet productions...so if it believes that those talented folks in entertainment, who is striving for excellence via their commitment to the craft, should always be rewarded, then the Film Room needs to be the opposing force against actors cheating while being payed as if they're making any family-time/emotional sacrifices



With the constant interference of studio higher-ups trying to make the same lowest-common-denominator pap for everyone and constant rewrites, that's probably a necessity at this point. Any solid actor will simply lean more on their improv abilities.

What that means industry-wide long term is another story.
With ear piece, no need for improv, thus no measure of solid actor

What that means for industry is
-union representation for those feeding lines,
-award shows' categories differentiating actors who memorizes from those that don't
-decrease in actor pay for not having to do as much any more
-new lane for voice actors to eat...they'll feed lines and how to deliver it


nothing is stopping others. I’m sure it would be distracting to some and many would prefer not to have someone talking in their ear.

no I could not care any less about wether Samuel L Jackson was being fed lines. The performance is what I’m enjoying. How they pulled the performance off is irrelevant to me. whether it’s getting fed lines, wearing a fat suit, elaborate makeup, ingenious camera angles, whatever, I don’t care what trickery they use as long as I can’t tell that they’re using it.

It’s like Jay-Z makes a big deal about doing his songs in one take. That may be an impressive skill, but it’s not one that makes me like his music any more or less.
it's also impressive that Hov writes his own and knows how to say verse, that what puts him in the elite level that I once put RDJ

Fat suit/camera angles/makeup are all out of actors' control...now add knowing your lines, that's lame


well is their job to be an actor or a line memorizer? i have a great knack for memorizing lines, but lordt knows aint nobody wanna see me try to act...so seems to me they're delivering on the part that matters
good point. But what if you're being told how to say it too...now the part that matters is compromised
 

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My friend pointed out that RDJ also said in interview that the ear piece helped him with the accent of Sherlock. So he had a brit feeding him lines too? cmon B. dikk Van Dyke side eyeing from the grave

The Film Room has established itself as a legit source of info about Film/TV/Innanet productions...so if it believes that those talented folks in entertainment, who is striving for excellence via their commitment to the craft, should always be rewarded, then the Film Room needs to be the opposing force against actors cheating while being payed as if they're making any family-time/emotional sacrifices




With ear piece, no need for improv, thus no measure of solid actor

What that means for industry is
-union representation for those feeding lines,
-award shows' categories differentiating actors who memorizes from those that don't
-decrease in actor pay for not having to do as much any more
-new lane for voice actors to eat...they'll feed lines and how to deliver it



it's also impressive that Hov writes his own and knows how to say verse, that what puts him in the elite level that I once put RDJ

Fat suit/camera angles/makeup are all out of actors' control...now add knowing your lines, that's lame



good point. But what if you're being told how to say it too...now the part that matters is compromised
A director can tell me to say it with my chest and I if I can’t act, I still won’t convince you if the emotion I’m supposed to be displaying.
 

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I never even realized that was a thing so they basically like NFL quarterbacks. NFL QB’s have long ass plays to recite
 
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