Melissa Harris-Perry Promo About Raising Children ‘Collectively’ Becomes News

[KillSpray]

Nope that's just the same old republican talking points used to justify the continued unfair treatment of inner-city people. That 70% number is misleading and has nothing to do with the condition of poor neighborhoods in America. It is a symptom of the problem, not the cause.

You take a kid, you start him out from the absolute bottom, you give him the least resources and opportunities, then you put up extra barriers on top of that. Then if he doesn't make it to the same success as a kid that was given everything you tell him "you should have tried harder" FOH with that.

Personal responsibilty is important. But successful people in America are not "personally responsible" for that success. An infrastructure has been created and maintained to offer success to some, and to hinder it for others.

Agree that an infrastructure needs to be in place to help kids in the right direction. Don't think that's the governments place tho. That's families responsibility first, then surrounding community second. All of the worst areas have deficiencies in those areas, and all of the most successful areas are strong in both areas.

 

[KillSpray]

so one goofy broad on a train means that inner-city kids don't deserve quality educations?

You can't rely on the government to provide a real "quality" education. All of the most important lessons of the successful come outside the classroom.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Agree that an infrastructure needs to be in place to help kids in the right direction. Don't think that's the governments place tho. That's families responsibility first, then surrounding community second. All of the worst areas have deficiencies in those areas, and all of the most successful areas are strong in both areas.

The goverments current policies undermine the communities ability care for its people. It makes absolutely no sense NOT to fight for them to give us equal opportunities and to work on our infrastructure. That's why we have the right to vote and shape government.

You can't rely on the government to provide a real "quality" education. All of the most important lessons of the successful come outside the classroom.

Not true at all. First off you can no longer make it in America without a traditional American education. You can debate whether that's "quality" or not. But all kids should be able to get one. Our current goverment policy is failing a lot of kids in that aspect.

Second. Some of the most important lessons come from being around and dealing with other people. Family is important for guidance. But a persons surroundings play a big part in shaping them. If the world gives the kids nothing but shyt, they will give shyt back to the world.

 

[KingJudah]

MHP is dumb and annoying as hell to listen to fckin Lispy a$$ bytch

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Did anyone else get for a split second when they read the thread title because they thought it said Melissa Harris-Perry porno?

 

[Consigliere]

I thought as US Citizens we were all collectively the property of the State. In fact, I thought that was the basis of suicide being illegal (in practice, if not by law).

 

[Black Hans]

Collectivism bullshyt.

It's a difference b/w being a good neighbor and this hivemind nonsense Perry and her socialist cohorts are trying to spew. A good neighbor would tend to make sure they're taking personal responsibility for their own lives so they do not become a burden to their other neighbors. If they stumble, the help is temporary and purpose is to assist the person to getting back on their feet and back to being autonomous. This socialist bullshyt is the equivalent to "Everybody gets a trophy for trying" even when everyone isn't even trying!!

Let's not confound to two.

PS I am not a conservative or Republican. I just don't like groupthink or anything that promotes it.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Collectivism bullshyt.

It's a difference b/w being a good neighbor and this hivemind nonsense Perry and her socialist cohorts are trying to spew. A good neighbor would tend to make sure they're taking personal responsibility for their own lives so they do not become a burden to their other neighbors. If they stumble, the help is temporary and purpose is to assist the person to getting back on their feet and back to being autonomous. This socialist bullshyt is the equivalent to "Everybody gets a trophy for trying" even when everyone isn't even trying!!

Let's not confound to two.

PS I am not a conservative or Republican. I just don't like groupthink or anything that promotes it.

"groupthink" is what created society as we know it today. In fact historicaly, societies who were were able to "think" with larger groups always developed faster than those that weren't able to.

 

[The Real]

Collectivism bullshyt.

It's a difference b/w being a good neighbor and this hivemind nonsense Perry and her socialist cohorts are trying to spew. A good neighbor would tend to make sure they're taking personal responsibility for their own lives so they do not become a burden to their other neighbors. If they stumble, the help is temporary and purpose is to assist the person to getting back on their feet and back to being autonomous.

This is quite a twisted definition of neighbors, but more importantly, it has nothing to do with the article, which is about children.

This socialist bullshyt is the equivalent to "Everybody gets a trophy for trying" even when everyone isn't even trying!!

This is even more irrelevant than your last point. Meritocracy has literally nothing to do with this article or discussion.

Let's not confound to two.

PS I am not a conservative or Republican. I just don't like groupthink or anything that promotes it.

Some "group" thinking is sound, and a sign of intelligence. Denying evolution, for example, doesn't make you a free mind- it means you're either ignorant or stupid. Similarly, denying the importance of community does not make you a renegade.

 

[OG Talk]

Isn't this Black bytch pro abortion?

 

[KillSpray]

The goverments current policies undermine the communities ability care for its people. It makes absolutely no sense NOT to fight for them to give us equal opportunities and to work on our infrastructure. That's why we have the right to vote and shape government.



Not true at all. First off you can no longer make it in America without a traditional American education. You can debate whether that's "quality" or not. But all kids should be able to get one. Our current goverment policy is failing a lot of kids in that aspect.

Second. Some of the most important lessons come from being around and dealing with other people. Family is important for guidance. But a persons surroundings play a big part in shaping them. If the world gives the kids nothing but shyt, they will give shyt back to the world.

Yeah i think you and I just have a fundamental difference of opinion on the proper role of government. I do not think grand government policy can be effective in these areas, and it has in fact been overwhelmingly ineffective when attempted. On a macro level I think the government should ensure that there's as fair an environment as possible, but there's definitely a line where it just becomes a waste of time and money.

 

[Consigliere]

Isn't this Black bytch pro abortion?

Is all that really necessary?