Meet “THE ICU”: Dr. Dre’s production team who are working on “MISSIONARY

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The way y’all try to discredit Dre is corny :mjtf:

I mean, I get it from the other side of the coin. Heads think Dre making the beats=Producer. When in reality Producer=the man orchestrating the beat makers.

Like heads fail to see that there's layers to production. For some people that are good with drums are shyt with chords. While others are beasts with the keys, but can't lay a drum pattern to save a shyt.

Prime example is the Neptunes (or lack thereof :mjcry: ). You can easily tell that Pharrell was the drum layer, while Chad was the chords and sometimes horns. Thus why somebody needs to arrange the overall sounds into this cohesive setting of music.

Its all confusion and Dre constantly getting shytted on for the wrong and sometimes right reasons, like how he did Daz and em in the beginning.
 

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Here we go with the Dre is just like Quincy Jones bs :pachaha:

The majority of his music is 6 bar piano loops or a sample over some programmed drums.

Hip hop is fundementally electronic music. It is beat driven music. Comparing what Dre is doing with Quincy Jones or Brian Eno or whoever is retarded.

"But but but Dre is so much more than a beat maker.... :bryan:You don't understand....Dre moved the mixing slider to the right and turned JR Rotem's mediocre beat into a masterpiece!!"
 

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Here we go with the Dre is just like Quincy Jones bs :pachaha:

The majority of his music is 6 bar piano loops or a sample over some programmed drums.

Hip hop is fundementally electronic music. It is beat driven music. Comparing what Dre is doing with Quincy Jones or Brian Eno or whoever is retarded.

"But but but Dre is so much more than a beat maker.... :bryan:You don't understand....Dre moved the mixing slider to the right and turned JR Rotem's mediocre beat into a masterpiece!!"
Explain why Dre’s beats have a signature sound? No matter who he works with.
 

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I mean, I get it from the other side of the coin. Heads think Dre making the beats=Producer. When in reality Producer=the man orchestrating the beat makers.

Like heads fail to see that there's layers to production. For some people that are good with drums are shyt with chords. While others are beasts with the keys, but can't lay a drum pattern to save a shyt.

Prime example is the Neptunes (or lack thereof :mjcry: ). You can easily tell that Pharrell was the drum layer, while Chad was the chords and sometimes horns. Thus why somebody needs to arrange the overall sounds into this cohesive setting of music.

Its all confusion and Dre constantly getting shytted on for the wrong and sometimes right reasons, like how he did Daz and em in the beginning.

Even the bolded part isn't true because Snoop of all people basically said years and years ago in an interview that they didn't do enough to even get credit for those beats:


Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.
Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them nikkas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafukka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs.


Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for nikkas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shyt to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of nikkas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nikka made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafukka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafukka and made it straight hit!


Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?

I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nikka in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nikka what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.


Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.

But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what nikkas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shyt ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shyt from ya'll! See that's what nikkas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?


Dubcnn: Right.

How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!


Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?

Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!


Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?

No, Dre produced a lot of that shyt! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafukkas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nikka Dre put all that shyt on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shyt! I'm telling you what I know man! nikkas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. nikkas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nikka, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed nikkas how to produce. Because nikkas was good at making beats, but he showed you nikkas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!
 
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