Meek Mill Feat. Quentin Miller - Wanna Know (Drake Diss) (Prod. By Jahlil Beats & Swizz Beatz)

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:mjlol: not even the WWE is trying to get involved with that whack ass "diss" track.
 

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Exactly. Wanna Know has some real pointed accusations and lines in there. The only thing that fukked it up, and the entire reason why he's struggling is... Execution. :francis:

I still think he was doomed from the start, but if he went about this correctly, he'd be in a better spot. He really needed a fan base to pull for him, moments like these are the EXACT reasons why you have them.



Yup. I can agree with this one. If he had a solid fan base, he wouldn't be out here getting assaulted on all fronts. He doesn't really have anyone except for his own team. Drake is winning BECAUSE of his fan base. Had the sides switched, Drake would've disappeared already.
I ain't a fan of either cat but just think about the amount of props and new fans Meek would've acquired if he made an actual diss record where he gets a simpler beat, speaks clearly, and goes line for line.. but he f*cked up and made a strip club single instead. Diss tracks are different. Just like rap battles when two dudes go at it face to face with no beat. This is what Meek should've been on. I was pullin' for him just for hip hop's sake to make things interesting
 

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How is it a problem though. Think of all the disses that people claim went hard.

Hit Em Up
No Vaseline
Ether
The Bridge Is Over
Takeover
Dre Day
Wanksta/Back Down
etc....

All of those had the elements i mentioned. Those artists didnt forget that in order for the diss to be effective the general public had to like it, be able to recite portions of it, and it had to be able to be blasted on the radio so the person getting dissed had to deal with that shyt on a daily basis. For Meek Mill to be a battle rapper and not get any of those portions right is a damn travesty. Its his fault he in this predicament. nikkas were waiting on him to drop a bomb on Drake and we could see what Meek could do when actually motivated and he dropped a huge turd. So even if people wanted to use this situation to speak on how Drake is watering down the culture and not really representing what the music is about they cant, because someone who was supposed to represent Hip Hop went out like a chump. That record is indefensible.


back down made JA Rule get hit with a lawsuit...made ja rule fucck up a DJ. lol.
 
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On my mama if i eva go 2 toronto or canada im slappin hella meek mill ima download his first tape all tha way up 2 this last album & have that shyt on repeat everydamnday.

Niccas make me sic & niccas spossed 2 be black
 

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People that come from a struggle, and relate to it and recognize it in another person. Meek's got a chip on his shoulder and is cocky as hell, and sometimes is real hard to like, but at least it's authentic. If he wasn't where he's at now he'd probably be dead or in jail. Hip-hop/rap, it's culture, and the business of it was built by people like that, and then bought out by corporate America, who made sure that someone like Drake became the poster boy for it.

I thought McHammer with popcorn chicken was the path to corporate america?
i thought nwa helping paint a negative image of black men was corporate america?

what are you even saying?...Drake has put out the image that a black man can be more than a thug and be accepted as cool/mainstream/etc. Drake is allowing a black man to be a common dude from the suburbs trying to make it. Not all black people live in the hood....plenty of blacks live in the suburbs and are not being represented on any level and are called phony black people. struggle don't make you black!!!

fact is keeping it real has gone wrong!!! Rap is a skill much like singing....if rap wasn't a skill everyone would be on beat (silk the shocker was always off beat) and could flow, but that's not the case!!! Rapping is a skill....but most hip-hop artist pen there stuff as well.

Drake has hit....and he's getting push, but it's better than pushing the most ignorant n!gga you can find. Drake is putting out a decent image for black men unlike most in entertainment and people want to keep that going!!!! it's deeper than music....
 

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I thought McHammer with popcorn chicken was the path to corporate america?
i thought nwa helping paint a negative image of black men was corporate america?

what are you even saying?...Drake has put out the image that a black man can be more than a thug and be accepted as cool/mainstream/etc. Drake is allowing a black man to be a common dude from the suburbs trying to make it. Not all black people live in the hood....plenty of blacks live in the suburbs and are not being represented on any level and are called phony black people. struggle don't make you black!!!

fact is keeping it real has gone wrong!!! Rap is a skill much like singing....if rap wasn't a skill everyone would be on beat (silk the shocker was always off beat) and could flow, but that's not the case!!! Rapping is a skill....but most hip-hop artist pen there stuff as well.

Drake has hit....and he's getting push, but it's better than pushing the most ignorant n!gga you can find. Drake is putting out a decent image for black men unlike most in entertainment and people want to keep that going!!!! it's deeper than music....


I never said struggle makes you black, especially since I'm white. Just saying hip-hop arose largely as a means of expression for those without a voice or an outlet. These people perfected the craft and introduced it to the masses, only to end up being basically blackballed in the culture they created. Nothing wrong with offering an alternative and making it cool to be like Drake, I prefer that over nonstop violence and drug talk, but I also don't agree with all the shameless dikk riding going on by stans, chicks, hipsters, yuppys, and corporate America that should have no influence in this discussion anyway, or at least wouldn't have had any influence at one time. Like I said it's a sign of the times, I accept it. And by the way the post that u quoted stemmed from so many different conversations going on.


And for the best examples of mainstream artists making it cool to be something other than a thug, and to aspire to be something great I prefer Cole and Kendrick in a landslide over Drake.

And I don't know what you're talking about the path to corporate America, I never said Drake was the path to corporate America..commercial success was the path to corporate America for hip-hop/rap. And I said in an earlier post that's a gift and a curse.
 
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