Pacquiao is always careless, and Marquez set him up the whole fight. That's not the type of KO that you just assume a fighter will come back and be the same from. Noone knows what he has left, including Pacquiao himself.
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Pacquiao is always careless, and Marquez set him up the whole fight. That's not the type of KO that you just assume a fighter will come back and be the same from. Noone knows what he has left, including Pacquiao himself.
Born2BKing
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exactly..nikkas think because pac got ko'ed by marquez and got jobbed by bradley that he's done...in none of those fights did pac show he was noticeably diminished..esp against marquez..pac was winning the fight and was in a round or 2 of ending it before he got ko'ed..pacquiao's next fight will be a better indicator of what he was left but i havent seen slippage that would be alarming
i also read some of the posts in here from the middle of the night after i passed around 3 and man i can tell some of you don't watch or follow boxing seriously at all outside of floyd/pacquiao
Born2BKing
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230 of those posts are hating on Floyd. That nikka Floyd musta fukked that nikka mama, sista or gradma or some shyt.
incorrect..the reason why floyd fights in vegas is to avoid double taxation on his purses..the only reason..floyd can make his money in any of the usual large venues but would have to pay taxes on the state where its held as well as well taxes in his home state..floyd living in vegas nullifies that
MustafaSTL
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Hanging on to the year without understanding the point I see. Since the early negotiations with Pac, every Floyd fight has had random blood testing. That was my point. Everything else you typed, that I did not read, means nothing.
GMOGMediaTV
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Baring injury or not. Sergio Martinez is a shot fighter. His reflexes and speed aren't the same when he fought guys like Paul Williams.
oh yeah theres no question sergio is slipping...he's a good example of a top fighter who is and manny has not shown slippage like that in comparison
I dont feel you're slighting Floyd, I feel that his defense is better than Ali's that's all. Remember we ARE only talking about DEFENSE right? Smh. What's all of this cape stuff with you brothers? Just because someone is favoring Floyd on a CERTAIN subject means that that person is a Stan or caping him? That's just that immature BS reasoning y'all use because you have nothing else to say. All of that Floyd being the greates fighter in the past 20 years is neither here nor there and has nothing to do with our debate about who's defense was better. Learn to stick to the script and stay on topic. I guess if I was saying Ali's defense was better then I would be a Ali Stan.
FYI, scroll through and find where I Stan anyone, I hardly post in this thread.
CanesMiamiLakers
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YouTube link to the fight?
Born2BKing
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Floyd must have taken speech classes because he is speaking a lot better recently. No stuttering and is clear and precise in what he is saying.
Don't be silly everybody was talking about Canelo, and how Floyd would cherry pick'em. I didn't say his too big, I'm saying all you fall naysayers keep telling him to move up, why don't you want to see him lose at his best weight, if you truly believe he ain't the best than lets see him lose at his best, not going to happen.
It's the same with yall nikkaz man, when he beats Canelo, you gonna say he was too young and not ready for the experience.
You don't notice the pattern
You dumb as fukk. The object of boxing is to WIN!
Sergio still has his belts, what about Pac, nikka done lost 2 straight how is that not slippage.
HE COULDN'T BEAT UP BRADLEY WHO WAS ON ONE FOOT THE MAJORITY OF THE FIGHT COME ON MAN.
Pac beat up on Marquez way worst than Bradley and he got KO'd, dude was not connecting on Bradley and HBO commentating was making it appear he was. Guy didn't have a mark on him after the fight.
Regardless how you feel about the decision, if Pac would've damaged the man they would've gave him the decision, but he couldn't beat him in convincing fashion, and thats his fault for being in that position.
Bottom Line, his dumb ass should have took the 40 mil Mayweather offered, because know he will never sniff that kind of bread, and will more than likely get knocked out in his next fight depending on the opponent.
NormanConnors
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Thats funny, Bernard Hopkins is almost 50 and fights Kelly Pavlik, Chad Dawson and Jean Pascal. Please dont bring Floyd's age into the discussion.
Your admitting Floyd should cherry pick all fights?
Bernard is taller and a natural middle weight/light heavy, and is less likely to see volume punchers, or guys with superb quickness, plus Bernard is usually stronger than his comp. different story when you add in the physical attributes, Floyds best weight was when he fought at 135....you see what happened with old man Bernard when he fought a volume puncher (Calzaghe), young Bernard would have beat him. Bernard beat those other cats you listed, because even at old age he was still equipped style to take them apart. Floyd can/is/could fight later into old age as well, but again the styles have to make sense as we are seeing right now
