Maybe we should just give homeless people Housing....

[Spidey Man]

It'll never happen in this country, but doing this for homeless vets would be very popular and might be able to be snuck through

 

[bnew]

We should just give homeless people Housing....

the problems this would solve is damn near incalculable. loitering would plummet, improved sanitation and hygiene would lead to fewer illnesses being transmitted. How many calls to police about homeless vagrancy, public urination/defecation, business owners complaints, panhandling wouldn't have to be made and responded to? Homelessness increases crime so after providing them housing society would see fewer assaults, murders, rapes, sex-trafficking, prostitution, drug abuse, theft, robberies and property damage.

 

[nyknick]

There's not that many homeless people in America.

What a lot of the need is healthcare. Mental issues and addiction issues is the cause of a lot of it.

California should really get on that...

 

[OfTheCross]

Dammit man..I had a nice long reply for you but it got erased.

Anyway..Cali alone has more than 30% of all the homeless ppl in America.

State of Homelessness: 2020 Edition - National Alliance to End Homelessness

Of all the "homeless" people, most are in shelters already, like 60%.

And most of the ones that aren't sheltered are probably crazy and need medical attention. That's why I'm saying healthcare is the real issue.

I'm for better funding homeless shelters, but that's not why people are out in the streets generally

 

[OfTheCross]

There's 300 million people in America and only 500k homeless.

That's .001% of the population

The Federal government can sit this one out.

 

[nyknick]

Dammit man..I had a nice long reply for you but it got erased.

Anyway..Cali alone has more than 30% of all the homeless ppl in America.

State of Homelessness: 2020 Edition - National Alliance to End Homelessness

Of all the "homeless" people, most are in shelters already, like 60%.

And most of the ones that aren't sheltered are probably crazy and need medical attention. That's why I'm saying healthcare is the real issue.

I'm for better funding homeless shelters, but that's not why people are out in the streets generally

I guess when people talk about homelessness they tend to picture worst cases because those are the ones that make the news. Mentally ill homeless that stab people, push people onto oncoming trains and overdose in the streets. Also they're easier to spot on the street anyway.

But even if your numbers and conclusion you came to are correct, which I doubt, that still means majority are not crazy/in need of medical attention.

1 in 10 NYC schoolchildren are homeless at some point during the year, that's around 100,000 children. Large percentage stay with friends/family but still around 35% are either in shelters or on the streets.

Getting accepted into a shelter is not as easy as just not being crazy. And being in one is not a great solution either.

PATH, Prevention Assistance and Temporary Housing, is where homeless families in New York City go to apply for shelter, and where they go to reapply if they are initially found ineligible or if they are “logged out” after missing check-in at their shelter for two nights in a row. The number of homeless New Yorkers has risen to the highest point since the Great Depression, and the largest demographic within the homeless population is children. As a result, the number of homeless students has increased nearly 70 percent over the last decade, according to the Department of Education. Over the past two years, I’ve spoken with more than a dozen homeless families with school-age children as they struggled with the often dueling imperatives of finding shelter and keeping their children in school.

Despite making up a majority of the city’s homeless population, homeless families are often not visible in the way single homeless adults can be — if a family is found living on the street, the children can be taken away by Child Protective Services. The people walking into the PATH center on any given day are mostly indistinguishable from those walking to the shopping center a few blocks away. You have to look closely to find the telltale giveaways — a few too many bags, or the little boy I met with his sister and mother on a sunny day dragging a large plastic Paw Patrol umbrella with a hooked handle, a prized possession that he wanted to have with him wherever he ended up next.

In order to qualify to be placed in a homeless shelter, a family must document all residences from the previous two years and prove to PATH’s fraud investigators that they cannot return to any of them. And if families become homeless because of domestic violence, as Prince’s originally did, they have to provide each police report and restraining order when they first go to the PATH center. In 2018, only 40 percent of families who applied for shelter at PATH met all the requirements and gained a placement.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...FjANegQIHxAC&usg=AOvVaw13MPE1PK2rASBAf2tsqeq8

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Making it affordable would be a better first step

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

It'll never happen in this country, but doing this for homeless vets would be very popular and might be able to be snuck through

Decent bridge policy that could get expanded to all homeless after a good success

 

[OfTheCross]

I guess when people talk about homelessness they tend to picture worst cases because those are the ones that make the news. Mentally ill homeless that stab people, push people onto oncoming trains and overdose in the streets. Also they're easier to spot on the street anyway.

But even if your numbers and conclusion you came to are correct, which I doubt, that still means majority are not crazy/in need of medical attention.

1 in 10 NYC schoolchildren are homeless at some point during the year, that's around 100,000 children. Large percentage stay with friends/family but still around 35% are either in shelters or on the streets.

Getting accepted into a shelter is not as easy as just not being crazy. And being in one is not a great solution either.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...FjANegQIHxAC&usg=AOvVaw13MPE1PK2rASBAf2tsqeq8

.001% of the population still doesn't warrant a federal response.

NY and Cali have to do something about their homelessness issue. Some one mentioned cost of living and I wholely agree that's a problem.

Maybe NY and Cali can offer homeless individuals $5000 to re-locate to a place or State of their choice that has a lower cost of living and decent job opportunities.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

i don't know if you're being serious, but if you are, i agree.

there will be some that reject it, those are the ones that clearly need some other form of treatment, or perhaps no form of treatment will ever save them.

it would greatly solve the homeless problem in California, I think.

I also think the feds should start penalizing municipalities/states who bus their homeless to California rather than deal with the problem within their state properly.

I heard ppl say that before, but I thought it was just an urban legend

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

There's 300 million people in America and only 500k homeless.

That's .001% of the population
The Federal government can sit this one out.

If the number is that small it’s worth housing people and providing them much needed healthcare. 500k is a lot of fukking people that shouldn’t be homeless in the richest country in the world. Damning people to suffer because it’s “only 500k” is a very sociopathic process of thought.

mind you flint Michigan only has 96k people but good thing no one stepped in to fix their water system because that number isn’t big enough....

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

.001% of the population still doesn't warrant a federal response.

NY and Cali have to do something about their homelessness issue. Some one mentioned cost of living and I wholely agree that's a problem.

Maybe NY and Cali can offer homeless individuals $5000 to re-locate to a place or State of their choice that has a lower cost of living and decent job opportunities.

Just neoliberal things

 

[GPBear]

Cities would spend money on hostile architecture so homeless people can't sleep on the sidewalks, rather than just give them housing.

550k homeless, 17 million vacant homes...

 

[GPBear]

There's 300 million people in America and only 500k homeless.

That's .001% of the population

The Federal government can sit this one out.

Foh with that liberatian bs

The Declaration of Independence guarantees "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as an unalienable right.
The preamble of the Constitution says "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." It's literally the only thing the federal government should be pursuing, the shyt states deal with is local laws. It's the federal government's job, according to the goddamn Constitution, to insure domestic tranquility and general welfare. A lot of homeless people get shipped interstate, which only furthers the argument that it's a federal matter.

But let the 'constitutional purists' tell it and the only thing the feds should be involved with is shooting people

 

[OfTheCross]

If the number is that small it’s worth housing people and providing them much needed healthcare. 500k is a lot of fukking people that shouldn’t be homeless in the richest country in the world. Damning people to suffer because it’s “only 500k” is a very sociopathic process of thought.

mind you flint Michigan only has 96k people but good thing no one stepped in to fix their water system because that number isn’t big enough....

Dammit man. I can't leave a reply and come back to the page on mobile anymore without everything being erased.

So, no links and I'm just gonna summarize what I was going to previously say in a more eloquent manner.

Homelessness is a local issue and NY and Cali should handle their issue. I encourage them to do everything possible and any means possible.

Most "homeless" people already have a place to stay, so that 500k is less than 250k, or .0008 of Americans

Flint's water was also a local issue.