Math Hoffa doubles down on his disrespect for HipHop. Smfh

[TEH]

Those breaking movies showed that hip hop was well established and even had movies by the early 80’s …

In other words it wasn’t new and even back then you saw only a few Hispanics on screen.

 

[OneManGang]

1)According to your logic "they lived in the New York/the Bronx at the time" should be a good enough argument for white people to claim hiphop as their creation, why all of a sudden the change?

2)we are excluding people from the creation because they didn't create anything. And don't just keep trying to change the language to "contribution"...and even that's kind of a weak leg to stand on. But yeah, we say "creation" yall switch to "contribution". And you contradicted yourself...you say Caribbeans and Latinos grew up as New Yorkers...so when i suggested White people who were also New Yorkers, your logic changes?

3)it's only become fools errand when you are tasked with showing people the hiphop creations that Latinos made. All of a sudden yall start hittin those vague terms like "it started in New York in general" or "50/50" or "you can't just say it was black people".



god i can't believe yall keep circling back around and playing stupid.

White people weren’t in the same neighborhoods or the same spaces as the originators, is that that hard to understand?

I’ve not one time said, black people didn’t start hip hop. YOU are saying only black Americans did which is actually true. West Indians are black, and grew up black in NYC. You exclude them as well. I’m not even hyper focused on the Latino part of the equation.

 

[The Fade]

I acknowledge this point. You’re right. We always acknowledge the origins. Black Americans have a wonderful history of music. That’s known

But Africans aren’t out here saying we originated your music bc we have you drums. You don’t see the paradox?

Nah they some of the biggest “you don’t have culture” to using the Pan-African “We” to “you aren’t actually real African American” users when it’s convenient. It comes across as contempt and like contribution to belittling another persons credibility when we all supposed to be doing this “Ubuntu” shyt.

I see irony because that toxicity i see from FBA trolls is the exact same shyt everyone else was doing before Floyd and Botham died. I’m waiting for everyone else to learn the lesson.

 

[Problematic Pat]

If Math Hoffa is wrong and Killer Mike is wrong and DJ Kool Herc is wrong then who tf created Hip Hop and when

Don't forget Big Daddy Kane

 

[OneManGang]

Nah they some of the biggest “you don’t have culture” to using the Pan-African “We” to “you aren’t actually real African American” users when it’s convenient. It comes across as contempt and like contribution to belittling another persons credibility when we all supposed to be doing this “Ubuntu” shyt.

I see irony because that toxicity i see from FBA trolls is the exact same shyt everyone else was doing before Floyd and Botham died. I’m waiting for everyone else to learn the lesson.

Brother, you seem to be arguing a point or arguing against people I have nothing to do with. Are you from NY? You grow up there? Blacks of all backgrounds don’t have these issues like that in real life

 

[NoCones]

Respectfully, I’m not searching for it. We in here now, link me a post if you can. Dead wrong seems hyperbolic as well. So you’re saying there’s no truth to that at all?

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/spike-lee-co-signs-fat-joe-black-people-and-puerto-ricans-created-one-of-the-great-art-forms-ever-together-in-the-bronx-undisputed.934441/page-8#post-46967922

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/rican-hiphop-pioneers-giving-the-dates-of-when-they-entered-first-saw-hiphop-being-done-they-were-not-there-from-the-start-by-their-own-admissions.936245/

 

[OneManGang]

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/spike-lee-co-signs-fat-joe-black-people-and-puerto-ricans-created-one-of-the-great-art-forms-ever-together-in-the-bronx-undisputed.934441/page-8#post-46967922

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/rican-hiphop-pioneers-giving-the-dates-of-when-they-entered-first-saw-hiphop-being-done-they-were-not-there-from-the-start-by-their-own-admissions.936245/

Ill read through it, predicate you fam

 

[serial]

But we don't own it artist still getting stuffed(pause) for publishing as well as show money merch etc.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Someone call Dizaster to snuff his ass out again

 

[DaHNIC82]

This all could've been avoided if all these tether and immigrant kids would've respected the originators. Don't start on this who cares who started it mumbo jumbo when people try to make it look like black Americans never did anything.

Almost everything started with us and we get our history erased, stolen and looked down upon.
I'm happy we're finally getting a backbone.

Exactly

 

[QBN]

Sad to see most of us are still stuck on foolish nonsense like this going into 2025 while every other non-white group is focusing on group economics, business, and ownership.

Oh well. Let me get back to the Jeremiah G. Hamilton biography that I found at the library last week

This!!!