"Mason Plumlee would be Lebron James in Bill Russell's era." Remy from Higher Learning
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what he said was 100% truth. I have no idea why people act like dudes from back then could compete today. Just look at it this way. Do you think Jesse Owens and the track stars from that era could compete with Usain Bolt or the other olympic champions of this era? nope. in track and field, we're lucky there's an objective test (the stopwatch) that lets us know how much better athletes now are than back then. why do nikkas think basketball is any different?
You know what else is different? Training and nutrition. Athletes from back then would have the benefit of modern training and nutrition if they played today. Athletes from today would not have those benefits if they played back then. Beyond that what modern athletes do now is either directly or indirectly based off of what guys were doing back then. Every current athlete based what they do and took something from an athlete that came before them. All of this stuff comes into play. Unless you have a Delorean, any discussion across eras must take these things into account.
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Baseball is the only sport you can measure athletes from then and now.
Example sandy koufax was throwing in the high nineties.
You could pluck a prime koufaxfrom 50 years ago or bBob Gibson and they would still dominate.
Example sandy koufax was throwing in the high nineties.
You could pluck a prime koufaxfrom 50 years ago or bBob Gibson and they would still dominate.
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Not to mention Jesse Owens was basically running in ballet shoes with nails jutting out the bottom on a fukkin dirt track!!!
no shyt. that is why athletes today are much better. humans are only slightly better naturally, mostly cause the population is bigger, so there are more chances for there to be genetic freaks. also there are more people doing sports because of the increased standards of living. there mighta been some dude in jamiaca 50 years ago that could smoke Usain Bolt, but instead of running track, that nikka was prolly picking sugarcane.
however, the biggest reason the modern athlete is better is because of modern medicine, nutrition and steroids.
when I say Wilt Chamberlein would be nothing in todays NBA, I'm not saying that Wilt would be nothing if he grew up all his life in the modern world. I'm saying if you just transported that nikka thru a time machine to today, he'd be a chump. Same thing with Mason Plumlee dominating. Put that nikka in a time machine and he'd be a god in the 60s.
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no. he'd be present day andrew bynum.
So when we transport all these players into the past are we going to let them dribble the same way that they dribble now? All the shyt they do now would be considered travelling back then. Are we going to let them get away with these crab dribbles, euro steps, or whatever the hell they doing now too? Will they also be playing in canvas shoes?
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I see your working hard to maintain WOAT poster ! I
your dedication to the title!
So disrespectful to Bill Russell. Mason still hasn't developed any post moves yet even after 4 years at Duke.
yea but he can yam on nikkas
they'd be building monuments for him in the 60s if he did this once.
That's not a comparison of the athletes then, it's a comparision of the times that they came up in and the various advantages/disadvantages of those times. If you are interested in a true comparision you take the times into account. If Plumlee was born back then he'd be the 50's version of what he is now. If Wilt was born in the 90's he'd be the 2014 version of what he was then and you acknowledged as much yourself. So it's really a stupid point when you think about it. There are no time machines so basing an argument on their existence is silly. You can however make a better inference as to how guys would fare across eras based on how they performed against their peers when everything is even. Bringing time machines (
) into the discussion merely points to a bias against older players. I could go back in time and be a genius based on the knowledge I have of things that were just being discovered or weren't even known about in the past that doesn't take away from the genius of guys like George Washington Carver or Garret A. Morgan.