Masculinity Debate: Are Dating Apps Creating A Generation Of Incels?! Lonely Men Are More Dangerous Than Ever!

[O.T.I.S.]

I see couples everyday. That doesn't mean that it's at the same rate/percentage it was 10-20 years ago.

Most people meet on dating apps today, and dating apps are one reason things are turning to shyt. We used to casually and organically just meet people through normal socialization over thousands of years. Dating apps, social media, working from home, streaming everything at home, cellphones, etc makes it so we aren't socializing like we used to.

To further compound that the traditional roles of men and women; I personally don't care if a woman is a breadwinner, but thats an exception not the rule; are shifting, but the desires each want haven't kept up with those shifts.

It's a multipronged problem, but if 65% of couples are meeting on dating apps, BUT only 20% of men are getting matches... what does that tell you about dating dynamics when you extrapolate that over millions of people? Hell... colleges ANOTHER place people meet, MEN aren't going to college. Someone posted yesterday Howard only has 20% black men and I think 25% MEN PERIOD.

When that happens, who do you think is eating? Who do you think is satisfied with that dynamic? Women are leaving men behind and for better or worse, they aren't stepping up to the plate for a variety of reasons. I can tell you now this is not favorable for women either. It makes women think they have unlimited opportunity, and it makes that 20% of men think they are really a commodity. But it's NOT sustainable societally.

Thank you breh

Was getting tired of stating the obvious and lost care for the conversation


Maybe dude just wanted to try and make sense of his point but all the data and statistics (and of course, real world experience) is showing that something has gone extremely wrong out here.

 

[Vandelay]

Kill yoself with ya lying bytch ass. You had the nerve to call someone dense.

Talking bout you shared receipts to prove some shyt on here.

You sound like an autistic child.


You a attention seeking weirdo gah damm.

You got it.

Lol

 

[O.T.I.S.]

It's the atmosphere now. Gainful entry level employment is hard to get without a college degree or a trade. Electronics are pushed to us as kids when we used to socialize in person. Some of my best memories as a kid was just playing sports and running the fukk around with 10-12 of my friends as a kid. Hanging at the mall. shyt, I actually liked going to school even though I myself am an awkward introvert ambivert. As an adult, you really don't have to go outside if you don't want to.

Yeah, you have to step out of your shell... but a lot of dudes are feeling hopeless because the atmosphere isn't the easiest to navigate so they just give up.

I personally have been on both sides of this coin, and you can find me talking to people trying to build them up to do more. There's dudes on here that just flat out gave up.

Some people are just tired and believe it’s a joke…

I am one of those people

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Young to middle aged men log on social media and hear women bashing the working male but let’s blame dating apps

The answer is social media and women not knowing how to shut up

I broke down for y’all before








When they blow the lid on the SUGAR DADDY EPIDEMIC

The average man isn’t prepared for that conversation

Most people are average. If you’re just an average man, why would an average woman choose you over the other average men approaching her? You still have to compete, and have something to offer in terms of personality, finances, life experience, etc. Women don’t have to accept offers from every man who is interested. The other average man may have traveled more, and has better stories. Another average man may have a more interesting job. If you work at Pep Boys, but the other average man is a school teacher, he is more appealing, because he can talk about his experiences in the classroom. What do you have to say about helping someone find the correct windshield wiper blade?

Women aren’t excited a man is offering sex. They know they can get it any time they want. Why should she choose you over all the other offers?

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

A lot of men don't have a circle of friends that they speak to regularly and aren't going out and doing things because they're broke.

How are you going to be mad that a woman doesn't want you if you live with 2 roommates and can't find a full time job that gives you enough disposable income and time that you can go out to restaurants, book flights, go to concerts etc.

If you're on a dating app and a woman who is choosing can choose between a man who's on a path to home ownership or currently owns a home vs a man who has no friends, can't afford to travel, doesn't go out and spend money, has an outdated and unreliable car and can't afford gas money etc.

People talk about men being incels like there isn't an economic component around it that needs to be addressed. Women like financial security. They need to know if they lose their job their man can cover expenses. A grower number of men aren't able to be that kind of man anymore.

 

[ViShawn]

BTW people think this is impacting white boys and men the most because "incel" culture usually has a white face, but Black Men are the least married male group. How do you all think this is impacting our economic and political power if we can't develop nested communities via building families

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Young couples with a stroller has nothing to do with dating? What about the couples I see with no kids?

Women's standards are high, Mens' loniness is high;

Yet where ever I go, I see couples of all shapes and sizes.

Sometimes, I wonder where these men live where they don’t see average black couples out and about. Let the Coli tell it, the only time a black man has a woman is if he’s rich, attractive, or a thug. I see swagless black men in relationships, and married all the time. They have to be blind to average and below average looking women, and only focus on attractive ones, then get mad when they get rejected, or even worse, expect those women to approach them. In what universe are women approaching average looking men?

And dating apps are only useful for attractive men. You’re being judged on your pics. Women don’t go on apps to meet men they would reject in real life. When a woman meets you in person, she may pick up on energy she can’t feel looking at a picture. You have a better chance meeting someone in person, because the conversation may lead to more.

 

[NobodyReally]

a dating app ain’t shyt if u can’t pull her out her comfort zone.
one thing im sure of, there’s going to be a lot more lonely women than men in the near future.

This isn't true. Women form community with other women. They make friends, they mentor, they go to church, they join social clubs and non profits, volunteer. If you go to the nursing homes and look at who isn't getting visitors and who is sitting in the corner with the lonely face, it ain't women.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

A lot of men don't have a circle of friends that they speak to regularly and aren't going out and doing things because they're broke.

How are you going to be mad that a woman doesn't want you if you live with 2 roommates and can't find a full time job that gives you enough disposable income and time that you can go out to restaurants, book flights, go to concerts etc.

If you're on a dating app and a woman who is choosing can choose between a man who's on a path to home ownership or currently owns a home vs a man who has no friends, can't afford to travel, doesn't go out and spend money, has an outdated and unreliable car and can't afford gas money etc.

People talk about men being incels like there isn't an economic component around it that needs to be addressed. Women like financial security. They need to know if they lose their job their man can cover expenses. A grower number of men aren't able to be that kind of man anymore.

The coli: Women love bad boy convicts

Also the coli: Women don't date broke men

 

[FTBS]

My statement is reflective of the data points the the woman who worked at hinge spoke about.

80% of the women want 10% of the men. (We've heard this in other places before too).

Your experience dones't change that this is what we're seeing more and more in the dating pool (especially gen z)

And fwiw, any dude who has women all over him is going to have a strength in one area, maybe he's charismatic, or funny, or socially adapt, or physically fit, or attractive. Its not all about money (even tho its a priority according to women)

I doubt I am the only one seeing this. And yes these dudes obviously have some appeal. My point is that its often not real or not anything that you can build a relationsip, family, and community with. Or to put it another way, that top 10% isnt the actual top 10%. They are top 10 in sexual attractiveness, social status, height etc...not necessarily actual strength, character, provision (may have the money but either manage it poorly, are doing something that has no future, or flat out not tryna share) discipline, willingness to build a family etc.

Lets say a dude is 6'2 and handsome and charismatic. He is gonna have chicks, no doubt. But if he is a weak, lazy, coward that doesnt benefit her, her children, or the community. Rinse, repeat.

 

[cheek100]

This isn't true. Women form community with other women. They make friends, they mentor, they go to church, they join social clubs and non profits, volunteer. If you go to the nursing homes and look at who isn't getting visitors and who is sitting in the corner with the lonely face, it ain't women.

I’ll give u that, they will click up for support. I was more talking about the younger gens.
But yea once they become bitter they stop fkn with men all together. Another reason to be married imho.

 

[Scaaar]

People who let a dating app influence them are low IQ.



Any man who doesn't understand how dating apps work deserves to be a lonely incel. If I'm 5'2 and ugly, why would I make a dating profile? It's MUCH better to approach in person. But dudes too scary to do that, so they deserve being lonely.

They have all these excuses instead of just admitting to themselves that they're not actually the man they're portraying to the world they are lol. What does dating apps have to do with you being lonely? Just date on your level and a lot of the folks wouldn't have that issue. But they're just as entitled as the women they love to call out and feel they deserve a certain type of woman and lifestyle just because

 

[High Art]

For any real change to occur, we have to:

1. Stop putting women on a pedestal.

2. Acknowledge that gender roles are a thing. If you are going to advocate for a more traditional version of masculinity complete with all the responsibilities of a man then you are going to have to accept traditional gender roles and with that, the traditional responsibilities of a woman. Anything outside of that, you have no room to complain.

 

[Scaaar]

BTW I think men need to do more but I also dislike the dismissiveness of men's issues coming from other men. So many boys in my family failed to launch for one reason or another and I can see how it's affecting other interpersonal relationships. Hell, I could have been one of them but I wanted better for myself but I realize not everyone has the same resolve, luck, and people around them to excel.

You hit the nail on the head right there. You wanted better for yourself so went and made it happen. Alot of these dudes want things to happen for them and are mad that it's not. That's not masculinity or how men are supposed to operate. That's feminine to sit and receive. You can make a million excuses for them but the Crux of the issue is that a lot of these men lack ambition or are chasing an idealistic version of manhood that doesn't align with how society is truly moving

 

[Wild self]

A lot of men don't have a circle of friends that they speak to regularly and aren't going out and doing things because they're broke.

How are you going to be mad that a woman doesn't want you if you live with 2 roommates and can't find a full time job that gives you enough disposable income and time that you can go out to restaurants, book flights, go to concerts etc.

If you're on a dating app and a woman who is choosing can choose between a man who's on a path to home ownership or currently owns a home vs a man who has no friends, can't afford to travel, doesn't go out and spend money, has an outdated and unreliable car and can't afford gas money etc.

People talk about men being incels like there isn't an economic component around it that needs to be addressed. Women like financial security. They need to know if they lose their job their man can cover expenses. A grower number of men aren't able to be that kind of man anymore.

Blame the economy for that. How many young adults under 35 can afford a home or a decent 1 bedroom apartment with hyperinflation of pricing? Who can afford $2k a month rent?

No other generation went though a economic or housing crisis like this one.