MARVEL's The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Official Thread
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PlayerNinety_Nine
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Such a dope episode. They making karli too sympathetic but i love the idea of thanos was righters. Capt frat going full domestic terrorist in another country. The shot with blood on the shield
I think that's by design though. There's shades of grey throughout the show. The Flag Smashers have a goal of looking out for everyone who was left behind in 2018, but they murder to do it. The job of Captain America is to figure out these moral problems - like whether or not to sign up for the Sokovia Accords in CW or kill Bucky for all the madness he had been part of in WS - as they develop, as much as it is throwing the shield and doing PSA's.
That's exactly the part of the role that the new Cap was so underprepared for that he's just killed someone in front of a crowd of people.
To me - the scenes in the bank and outside Isiah Bradley's house both represent reasons Sam could be
about helping to get things back to the way they were in 2018, but we saw that when he took the passive route and gave the shield up, it ended up with Walker.
So people (mainly white people) on twitter are heated at The Dora Milaje & Ayo for disarming Bucky, saying they never trusted him/they're worse than hydra, etc.
Did these motherfukkers not watch the show???
Bucky betrayed their trust and the trust of the entire country of Wakanda by freeing the man responsible for the death of their previous king. And STILL, they gave Bucky an 8-hour reprieve to get what he needed from Zemo and hand the motherfukker back over out of respect for what they saw him go through. Keep in mind, we saw Okoye about to put a spear through her husband's throat in BP for Wakanda, so that shows how much trust they had in Bucky.
The second Bucky involved himself in the fight with Walker and their pursuit of Zemo (again), was the second that trust rightfully got snatched back. Ayo invoked the name of Bast and basically told James he's no longer welcome in Wakanda. She didn't call him White Wolf, she didn't call him Bucky, she called him James.
Bottom line? Bucky fukked up, and has cost himself the one place on earth that was willing to accept him and where he could be at peace with himself, all because he didn't maintain the trust and check in with them on this.
Did these motherfukkers not watch the show???
Bucky betrayed their trust and the trust of the entire country of Wakanda by freeing the man responsible for the death of their previous king. And STILL, they gave Bucky an 8-hour reprieve to get what he needed from Zemo and hand the motherfukker back over out of respect for what they saw him go through. Keep in mind, we saw Okoye about to put a spear through her husband's throat in BP for Wakanda, so that shows how much trust they had in Bucky.
The second Bucky involved himself in the fight with Walker and their pursuit of Zemo (again), was the second that trust rightfully got snatched back. Ayo invoked the name of Bast and basically told James he's no longer welcome in Wakanda. She didn't call him White Wolf, she didn't call him Bucky, she called him James.
Bottom line? Bucky fukked up, and has cost himself the one place on earth that was willing to accept him and where he could be at peace with himself, all because he didn't maintain the trust and check in with them on this.
I see a swirling relationship forming between Dora and White wolf 
Fake capt America couldn’t even give his boy half of the serumWith a name like battle star I thought dude would be top tier
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Walker is about to go rogue. He is gonna leave that shield in the past and then go on a mission to hunt down the flag smashers.
the show keeps putting focus on the flag smashers and every actor/actress representing them is bland and lifeless as fukk
Rell Lauren
Banned
Fantastic episode! Probably the best in the series so far. Great pacing. The Dora represented! Some of the writing choices were sketch, but I'm too invested to gripe too much. I really love that they went there with Walker at. I hope he gets dethroned. A-
I'm also loving some of the meta commentary on this episode. Sarah's line "My world doesn't matter to America, so why should I care about it's mascot?"So much to unpack here. I love these tweets too.
Oh brother.
Cap's sidekick getting killed in battle served to develop the character. This wasn't someone random he was paired up with.
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the show keeps putting focus on the flag smashers and every actor/actress representing them is bland and lifeless as fukk
they are normal people. no speeches. no privilege. shy. beaten down. but now with super-human abilities.
it's intentional.
they re-wrote the script (to remove a pandemic) and spliced in some extra scenes (like when they were on that bike) so their actions are not as clear.
the idea is that a global pandemic and vaccine apartheid have forced the SM to fight for the common man. that mama character dies of the pandemic. they took the vaccine to save their lives after they got sick i think.
humminbird
Veteran
Ooooh
it can be intentional that they're tired and downtrodden people, i'm not disagreeing with any of that.
but the performances and screen presence from them as actors is just plain bad
that whole funeral scene had the depth of a used car commercial and last episode she just blew up a building killing over a dozen people and the limited range of everyone in that group varied from light shrugs to "aww shucks"
they keep saying these folks are heroes to people but the stand out moments are some guy homeschooling kids in a building telling mackie to kick rocks and some random telling karli they eat free at his internet cafe
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that tacked on tonal shift (and the others in ep. 3) may have been due to the script changes.
have a look at this:
because they took out the pandemic scenes.
in the original you would have a pandemic raging all around and the FS fighting to get vaccines for the people and fighting against the GRC. GRC wants vaccines (and resources) for rich people and rich countries. the FS'ers are fighting against that.
they removed that but tried to keep the script internally consistent.
in removing that they have removed much of the back-drop to the motivations of the FS'ers and the reason why they are gaining widespread support.
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saying all of that there are still problems with the script and some of the actors, but in the context of these late stage changes the issues are far less jarring.
This is the best episode thus far and they still are 4 for 4.
