MARVEL's The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Official Thread

[Bryan Danielson]

 

[SunZoo]

Such a dope episode. They making karli too sympathetic but i love the idea of thanos was righters. Capt frat going full domestic terrorist in another country. The shot with blood on the shield

I don't know about them being Thanos fans.

If you're old enough to have been alive and aware of self during 911, you'll remember how for that split second, tragedy had people who would otherwise give two fukks about each other come together in grief, awe and support on the ground to save and help anybody that was left dealing with the fall out.

It was a horrible way to get to that place of one-ness and humanity, but it was beautiful. The way they talk about the blip and how people responded by banding together, it reminds me of the disappointment you felt after 911 left the news cycle and people just went back to treating each other like shyt.

They got a glimpse of a world without borders, a world that was focused on mutual benefit and they want to go back to that. But you can't do it through force, you need hearts and minds, a consciousness shift en masse. That's where the importance of symbols come to light.

 

[humminbird]

I don't know about them being Thanos fans.

If you're old enough to have been alive and aware of self during 911, you'll remember how for that split second, tragedy had people who would otherwise give two fukks about each other come together in grief, awe and support on the ground to save and help anybody that was left dealing with the fall out.

It was a horrible way to get to that place of one-ness and humanity, but it was beautiful. They way they talk about the blip and how people responded by banding together, it reminds me of the disappointment you felt after 911 left the news cycle and people just went back to treating each other like shyt.

They got a glimpse of a world without borders, a world that was focused on mutual benefit and they want to go back to that. But you can't do it through force, you need hearts and minds, a consciousness shift en masse. That's where the importance of symbols come to light.

My mom tells me about this I was too young to understand
She says that everyone actually respected each other
She thought COVID would do the same but it obviously didn’t

 

[MikelArteta]

 

[MikelArteta]

Breh have you been paying any attention since Civil War.

I have but still with his smarts and then that strength he'd be unbeatable

 

[BillBanneker]

New cap putting blood on the shield

they gonna have to explain how he took the SS serum with no immediate side effects, like Karli and the other flag smashers (especially since my theory that he’s already had it is done)


And play around with the Dora Milaje if you want

 

[Ziggiy]

New cap putting blood on the shield

they gonna have to explain how he took the SS serum with no immediate side effects, like Karli and the other flag smashers (especially since my theory that he’s already had it is done)


And play around with the Dora Milaje if you want

I thought they already explained in the third episode that this serum doesn’t have any noticeable side effects. So you won’t be jacked like Steve Rodgers but you’ll have all the physical perks.

 

[SunZoo]

My mom tells me about this I was too young to understand
She says that everyone actually respected each other
She thought COVID would do the same but it obviously didn’t

Exactly.

We're busy trying to get back to "normal" as if we were moving in the right direction before the big bad rolled up...

see that’s where I’m coming from. Not on him taking serum but him accepting he can be cap and stand on his own while being a different cap. And I know that’s where the story is going and I’m loving the ride to get there.

Sam has to reconfigure what it means to be captain America in this world that enslaved his people for 400 years and haven’t made it any easier on them since. And embrace what makes him different and his perspective unique from Steve.

I do think he can make the sacrifice play though because as you point out, being a black soldier in America and even being a little willing to wear that shield is a sacrifice play. It’s his life and the life of his loved ones.

That's real, we can tell that's where the story is headed and I hope they stick it, but the why's and how's gotta line up.

And until Sam can be a leader, he doesn't need the shield or any juice. Bucky may be 100 some odd years old but he was looking to Sam for leadership it seems, but he has doubts about his ability to be THAT. So he ain't mentally or emotionally ready.

Also, anybody else get nervous when Walker put his Shield down like he was going to steal on Sam? And if/when that happens, he may leave him looking like Lamar.



That means he ain't physically ready either. Hypothetically though, if he were to take it, his 'Captain America' would be built around his compassion as a councilor, not just a soldier. More of an ambassador and rightfully so.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Cant wait to see how they get this shield back now

 

[BillBanneker]

I thought they already explained in the third episode that this serum doesn’t have any noticeable side effects. So you won’t be jacked like Steve Rodgers but you’ll have all the physical perks.

Karli and the other flag smasher said when they initially took it it was like “they’re veins were on fire” in the same episode.

 

[Sghost597]

Cant wait to see how they get this shield back now

From his dead corpse? How else? Bucky better go FULL Winter Solider.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I just found out that she is half Black.

I’m just waiting on the reaction when you and the coli find out she a lesbian

 

[Child_Of_God]

I’m just waiting on the reaction when you and the coli find out she a lesbian

I’m ok with that personally.

 

[ORDER_66]

I’m ok with that personally.

Im kinda not getting my hopes up on who's she fukking or what she doing... That way you can't be disappointed...

 

[NobodyReally]

Fantastic episode! Probably the best in the series so far. Great pacing. The Dora represented! Some of the writing choices were sketch, but I'm too invested to gripe too much. I really love that they went there with Walker at. I hope he gets dethroned. A-

I'm also loving some of the meta commentary on this episode. Sarah's line "My world doesn't matter to America, so why should I care about it's mascot?" So much to unpack here. I love these tweets too.