Marvel/DC is lacking in the creation of original new Villains

[parallax]

Do we really want a new Villain though??

I mean if a new dude came to Gotham called The Seige a his power was telekinesis and his goal was to take down say...... Bruce Wayne's empire.

What we really care? Or how long would it be till we be like

Where's the Joker and what is Deathstroke doing right now?

Martha

older heroes arent in dire need for new villains. newer heroes definetely need antagonists.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Since they don't kill their villains there's really no need to create new ones

you're not creating a villain better than joker, or fisk, etc..

 

[Wargames]

Yea. This whole heroes vs heroes thing is played out now.

It sucks when u think bout it cuz xmen in particular is stuck with that bullshyt and they were laced with great villains in the 80s/90s

Sinister
Stryfe/zero
Apocalypse snd his revolving door of horsmen and dark ryders
Sabretooth
Dark beast
Omega red
John sublime
Reavers
Weapon x scientists/groups
Acolytes
Mojo
Cassandra nova
Nimrod
Galatic threats like: shiar. Brood. Skrulls. The race from whedons run that killed collosus..

And thats not even showing the classics like
Magneto
Mystique
Brother hood of evil mutants
Juggernaut
Sentinels/govt scientists
Hellfire club
Sauron
Shadow king
And long forgotten villains like lucifer

And yet they have fought good guys for the better part of the last ten years. Easily the beat crew or baddies in comix (well batman a close second. Spiderman a fighting third) and no way to use them correctly.

Thats cause Marvel is on some



No Mutants

So they been killing them slow in the books literally

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Since they don't kill their villains there's really no need to create new ones

you're not creating a villain better than joker, or fisk, etc..

That's a defeatist attitude and if they felt that way in the 80s and 90s you'd have no venom, no Stryfe, no Phoenix, no Mr sinister, etc

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Thats cause Marvel is on some



No Mutants

So they been killing them slow in the books literally

They killed them REAL FAST breh.

Like

One cell killed like 90% of them

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

They shoulda pushed Modok more.He woulda held it down for the summer.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

older heroes arent in dire need for new villains. newer heroes definetely need antagonists.

Who are some of the new hero's that are really popular?



And please don't give some "well Black Lightning is..... the DC character who was shot in a drive by and before death got the power of Zeus and blah blah blah...."


No...... I need someone like per say if I was to walk up to 10 casual people of different ages and color.... they'd recognize him as easy as Hulk and Batman

Thats cause Marvel is on some



No Mutants

So they been killing them slow in the books literally

Come on breh you and I and us all know that wasn't a personal decision.

That was just good business and strategy

It's like spanking your kids..... in the end it her them more to do that

Martha

 

[parallax]

Who are some of the new hero's that are really popular?



And please don't give some "well Black Lightning is..... the DC character who was shot in a drive by and before death got the power of Zeus and blah blah blah...."


No...... I need someone like per say if I was to walk up to 10 casual people of different ages and color.... they'd recognize him as easy as Hulk and Batman

what does popularity have to do with establishing a rogues gallery? son of vulcan had about 8 issues, and two different rogues sets. strong rogues make strong heroes regardless of popularity

 

[Bryan Danielson]

what does popularity have to do with establishing a rogues gallery? son of vulcan had about 8 issues, and two different rogues sets. strong rogues make strong heroes regardless of popularity

No.... but I'm just saying.... "who" are these new hero's?

Thats the initial question and we'll go from there

Martha

 

[Optimus Prime]

what about The Court of Owls

 

[parallax]

No.... but I'm just saying.... "who" are these new hero's?

Thats the initial question and we'll go from there

Martha

Miles Morales
Ms marvel
Sam nova
Robbie Reyes
Ms america
Mania
Vivian
Nomad(if they ever decide to bring him back)
The Braddock academy survivors from avengers arena

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Miles Morales
Ms marvel
Sam nova
Robbie Reyes
Ms america
Mania
Vivian
Nomad(if they ever decide to bring him back)
The Braddock academy survivors from avengers arena

Ok cool beans

damn I only know like 2 of them... and one only due to the sake of Agents of Shield.

So you're saying they are basically fighting some of the same traditional villains?

Martha

 

[parallax]

Ok cool beans

damn I only know like 2 of them... and one only due to the sake of Agents of Shield.

So you're saying they are basically fighting some of the same traditional villains?

Martha

ms america is being worshipped for being a special snowflake super tank

sam was the only nova for a while and mostly getting shat on or straight up forgotten

ms marvel is claimed to be the spider man of a new era(except pete was never that preachy, but i get the appeal)

mania has a piece of the venom symbiote as well as hell mark powers

vivian is visions sole surviving family member

nomad is arnim zolas son raised by captain america, but is lost somewhere between battleworld and 616

and anacronism and cullen are the only survivors from braddock academy that were in arcades arena

and yeah, theyre just filling holes left by their predecessors

 

[Bryan Danielson]

ms america is being worshipped for being a special snowflake super tank

sam was the only nova for a while and mostly getting shat on or straight up forgotten

ms marvel is claimed to be the spider man of a new era(except pete was never that preachy, but i get the appeal)

mania has a piece of the venom symbiote as well as hell mark powers

vivian is visions sole surviving family member

nomad is arnim zolas son raised by captain america, but is lost somewhere between battleworld and 616

and anacronism and cullen are the only survivors from braddock academy that were in arcades arena

and yeah, theyre just filling holes left by their predecessors

Holy shyt.... I'm so confused with so much of that

Ms Marvel is the spiderman? the fukk?

Man let me get my youtube and wikipedia on

Martha

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

This idiot