Martin Wolf: THE ECONOMIC LOSERS ARE IN REVOLT AGAINST THE ELITE

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I wouldnt go that far.


At its core American libertarianism is individualism... which is IMO very much populism.:ehh:

Important to discern between populist rhetoric and positions here. A libertarian may use populist rhetoric when discussing his opposition to desegregation or to a law restricting industrial waste storage, but his argument is one seeking to neuter popular will.
 

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I wouldnt go that far.


At its core American libertarianism is individualism... which is IMO very much populism.:ehh:


Whats populist about handing over complete control to corporations and having them uncontrollably fukk the rest of the population up the ass? :what:
 

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I'm still not sure where this belief comes from...
One need only follow the money to see this wouldnt be the case at all.

Libertarianism is in the same vein as anarcho-capitalism, there are no checks and balances on corporations

Humans are innately greedy and selfish, the less control you have over a conglomerate of greed and selfishness, the worse off everyone else is
 

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guess that thread title is one way of looking at that article....

or...it's the title of the article clown :mjlol:

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Populism is a bit nebulous, but historically populists enlist state power to solve popular problems, be they economic or social.

A populist might argue that we need to resegregate, like George Wallace, or that we need to break the stranglehold of big corporations on our economy, like Huey Long. But usually regardless of whether you have a populist more concerned with social norms or economic fairness, there's usually a sympathy for the other focus. Thus you have figures like George Wallace, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Charles Coughlin, or Donald Trump who appeal based upon social fears but also share a relative economic moderation or outright radicalism.

Then you have figures like WJB, Huey Long, John Edwards, and Bernie Sanders who offer relatively strong critiques of economic structures from the left but share a relative moderation or regressiveness on certain social issues. Both these groups like using state power to their preferred ends. You can actually see overlap in these support groups of these very different people. Huey Long and Coughlin conspired to form a separate political party together, the most popular 2nd choice for Wallace voters in 72 was McGovern, there's an apparent Sanders/Trump swing voter, etc.

Libertarians are the opposite of this ideology in that they largely reject the validity of popular thought and action. Orthodox Libertarians reject state interference in both social and economic spheres.

In short; populists believe in democracy, libertarians do not believe in democracy.
Its not true that libertarians do not believe in democracy, they actually believe in up holding the individual Rights' of democracy.

The previous two groups (and groups of people ) both simply believe in supporting the elite wealthiest people from opposite sides of the Isle
 

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I only find pizza addicting in that it's cheap and easy to stretch over a couple days.
 

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Libertarianism is in the same vein as anarcho-capitalism, there are no checks and balances on corporations

Humans are innately greedy and selfish, the less control you have over a conglomerate of greed and selfishness, the worse off everyone else is
Bruh you just used libertarian propaganda to argue against libertarianism :why:
 
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