Marco Rubio, the Real Threat in 2016, Has Been Eclipsed by Ted Cruz

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...at-in-2016-has-been-eclipsed-by-ted-cruz.html

This summer, in an act of literary masochism, I read not one but two books about Marco Rubio. I came away from his memoir, An American Son, and Manuel Roig-Franzia’s excellent biography, The Rise of Marco Rubio, with the queasy feeling many Republicans must have had when they began reading Obama books in 2007 or 2008: this isn’t the guy you want to see on the other side of the line.

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It’s not that Rubio is as smart and perceptive as Obama. Not even close. But he’s likable and authentic. I expected American Son to be a linear narrative about a child of immigrants who through talent and dedication validates his parents’ sacrifice and realizes the American Dream. But it’s an edgier, more self-critical tale of a somewhat immature and egocentric child of immigrants who torments his parents and alienates the woman he loves until football, Catholicism, and politics give him the direction he needs. It’s also the story of a young man who’s far more interested in politics than ideology. Reading Roig-Franzia, and Rubio himself, you get the impression that Marco Rubio has only one long-standing ideological conviction: hatred of Fidel Castro. What he fell in love with on the streets of Miami’s raucous Cuban ghetto was the political game. The best analogy might be John F. Kennedy, who also learned the art of politics in a parochial ethnic community but through personal skill and generational change was able to transcend it.

As Roig-Franzia makes clear, Rubio’s early views on immigration were shaped more by immigrant and ethnic kinship than any right-wing slogan about securing borders and enforcing the law. In the Florida legislature, Rubio cosponsored legislation to give migrant farmworkers more rights and supported in-state tuition for illegal immigrants’ kids. He also fancied himself a pragmatic dealmaker, working as speaker of the Florida House to pass a statewide cap-and-trade framework for combatting climate change on the grounds that Washington was likely to mandate it and the Sunshine State might as well be ready.

In 2010, Rubio was savvy enough to see an opening with the nascent Tea Party after Florida’s moderate Republican governor, Charlie Crist, made the mistake of hugging Barack Obama. And Rubio skillfully grafted the Tea Party’s anti-government message onto his own hatred of Castro with lines like: “My parents lost their country to a government. I’m not going to lose mine.” But everything about his political career in Florida helps explain why, on entering the U.S. Senate, he opted to quarantine himself in a back room with John McCain and Chuck Schumer and craft a bill that gives immigrants a path to citizenship.

They’ve discarded Rubio in favor of Cruz, a man who combines Sarah Palin’s worldview, Richard Nixon’s commitment to fair play, and Al Gore’s folksy charm.

Turns out I should have saved my Barnes & Noble gift card. The Senate immigration bill, at least for now, has crippled Rubio’s presidential hopes. Between April and July, notes the estimable Thomas Edsall, Rubio’s support in New Hampshire dropped by almost two-thirds. Of the first seven national polls of Republican voters tallied by Real Clear Politics starting last November, Rubio led in six. But he hasn’t led any of the last four. That’s not surprising given that according to the Pew Research Center, Republicans are four times more likely to want the GOP to move in a more conservative direction on immigration than to moderate its stance. Sarah Palin has even called on conservatives to challenge Rubio in the 2016 Florida Republican primary.

While I was reading about Rubio, he was being eclipsed by another Dixie Republican Senator of Cuban heritage, Ted Cruz. Cruz is undoubtedly smarter than Rubio. He’s far more ideological, having spent his teenage afternoons reading Ludwig von Mises at the Free Enterprise Education Foundation while Rubio was pounding wide receivers at South Miami High. Cruz is more arrogant, having alienated even some Republican senators with his condescending put-downs. He’s more prone to demagoguery, having suggested—based on no evidence whatsoever—that Chuck Hagel might be receiving money from North Korea. Cruz is less interested in passing legislation. Indeed, he’s leading the charge to shut down the government in order to defund Obamacare. And unlike Rubio, Cruz’s convictions just happen to match up perfectly with the animal spirits of the Republican base he’s courting for president. Which is to say, during his time in Washington, he’s never done anything politically brave.

Cruz is eclipsing Rubio, it’s worth recalling, at a time when the American people’s biggest complaints about the GOP are that it’s “too unwilling to compromise” and “too extreme.” (PDF) Were the Republican Party’s shrinking cohort of right-wing activists not sheltered from the rest of America by the informational coc00n Fox News has built for them, they would see in Rubio’s immigration work a politician struggling, not always coherently but with a degree of humility and good will, to show younger, poorer, newer, less white Americans that the GOP gives a damn about them. They might also realize that this kind of inclusive gesture, combined with Rubio’s natural charisma, offers the chance to partially undo the GOP’s reputation as a party beholden to blue bloods and bigots. Instead, they’ve discarded Rubio in favor of Cruz, a man who combines Sarah Palin’s worldview, Richard Nixon’s commitment to fair play, and Al Gore’s folksy charm.

Somewhere, a woman in a pantsuit is laughing.
 

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The GOP's embrace of a guy like Cruz is just another indicator that, as a party, they have no idea what it is going to take to win a national election. Cruz's schtick goes over well with the GOP faithful who come out in droves during primaries but the rest of the country finds what Cruz brings to the table to be repellant.
 

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Lol at Rubio being a threat. The one time he had a podium to speak to the nation he became a meme because of how nervous he was. He's just another token minority for the GOP and it won't work :camby:

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naw, he's too weak.


the GOP needs a strong conservative than can get their base going and who is energetic. - not just a minority that will fold under pressure. The need to capitalist on that anti Obama push back and also take advantage of the young people who will be falling off of politics and voting because of the crushed hopes and dreams of Obama. .

keep in mind that our politics are superficial and most voters don't follow most issues.
 

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naw, he's too weak.


the GOP needs a strong conservative than can get their base going and who is energetic. - not just a minority that will fold under pressure. The need to capitalist on that anti Obama push back and also take advantage of the young people who will be falling off of politics and voting because of the crushed hopes and dreams of Obama. .

keep in mind that our politics are superficial and most voters don't follow most issues.
Nah i don't think the base is the problem, it's EVERYTHING ELSE.
The base is going to vote for whoever has the R on the ballot, it's the 15-20% of americans who CAN GO either way. They go democratic a lot because well, quite frankly the GOP is bat shyt crazy right now and most people see that.

The biggest threat to the Dems will be when the GOP finds a NON Uncle Tom minority, who can play to the middle.. Rubio is not that, he's too uncle tomish; Cruz doesn't play well with the middle.
 

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Nah i don't think the base is the problem, it's EVERYTHING ELSE.
The base is going to vote for whoever has the R on the ballot, it's the 15-20% of americans who CAN GO either way. They go democratic a lot because well, quite frankly the GOP is bat shyt crazy right now and most people see that.

The biggest threat to the Dems will be when the GOP finds a NON Uncle Tom minority, who can play to the middle.. Rubio is not that, he's too uncle tomish; Cruz doesn't play well with the middle.
Nah not happening. The GOP cant help but treat minorities like uncle toms, they cant help it. The character you think exists will never make it through a GOP primary. I can guarantee it like Men's Wearhouse. The GOPs last hope is to absorb libertarians in a last ditch attempt to win back the white youth, but that aint happening. The old school neocons arent dead yet.
 

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Christie will be the GOP nominee. It doesn't matter how much the base hates him. He will win all the big states with a lot electoral votes except for Texas in the primary like Romney did.
Yep, and unlike RMCMB he actually has a soul/personality. He wont be easy for Hillary. Christie/Rubio could be a powerful ticket.
 

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Yep, and unlike RMCMB he actually has a soul/personality. He wont be easy for Hillary. Christie/Rubio could be a powerful ticket.

The crazy thing if we're talking pure charisma, Christie has the edge over Clinton. Clinton rides off Bill, but it will be interesting to see if she comes off less cold vs Christie. Obama was able to beat her with charm.
 

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Nah not happening. The GOP cant help but treat minorities like uncle toms, they cant help it. The character you think exists will never make it through a GOP primary. I can guarantee it like Men's Wearhouse. The GOPs last hope is to absorb libertarians in a last ditch attempt to win back the white youth, but that aint happening. The old school neocons arent dead yet.
that's true. The GOP would have to cut of their face to win their nose.
They're in a catch 22. Get a minority to win minorities, but also not lose the base who hates minorities.

Someone like Christi is going to be there best bet. They need to let go of the radicals, the moment they realize that their base is goign to vote R regardless they can more easily lock up that floating middle 15-20%.
There CORE messages ring well in a lot of ears.
- Low taxes
- "Hard work"
- Less government

Most people can get with that. The problem for the GOP is those ideas also come with
- Racism
- Gun NUttery
- Xenophobia
- abortion
- religion

So for the average america who wants low taxes, and the ideal of american values, BUT isn't a xenophobic or religious nut you really have a choice to make and reason usually wins out.
 

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Nah i don't think the base is the problem, it's EVERYTHING ELSE.
The base is going to vote for whoever has the R on the ballot, it's the 15-20% of americans who CAN GO either way. They go democratic a lot because well, quite frankly the GOP is bat shyt crazy right now and most people see that.

The biggest threat to the Dems will be when the GOP finds a NON Uncle Tom minority, who can play to the middle.. Rubio is not that, he's too uncle tomish; Cruz doesn't play well with the middle.
Doesn't matter who's crazy or who is on the fridge of the national mentality.


first off I don't think it will be Christie. He seems like the obvious pick, but they will probably chose weak ass rubio for obvious reasons. .

second, They win when the nation is energized in their direction. In 08 shyt was different. The dems don't have that momentum right now. The GOP will play (and they already have started) to play on the interest of the libertarians and that group is growing. It's a fantasy to think the dems will get that group... despite all the gop craziness.

they probably will win with or without Christie. 2016' is a must win year for them - they know they are dead if a liberal crushes them in general elections. For 2 election cycles we haven't experienced the GOP even making an attempt at energizing it's core base.....They tried the Romney and mccain type of people...... so we believe the GOP is weak fantasy. It's not.

Non -college educated white people and libertarians and ultra conservatives makes up most of the voters - outside of hard core liberals.
 

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Doesn't matter who's crazy or who is on the fridge of the national mentality.


first off I don't think it will be Christie. He seems like the obvious pick, but they will probably chose weak ass rubio for obvious reasons. .

second, They win when the nation is energized in their direction. In 08 shyt was different. The dems don't have that momentum right now. The GOP will play (and they already have started) to play on the interest of the libertarians and that group is growing. It's a fantasy to think the dems will get that group... despite all the gop craziness.

they probably will win with or without Christie. 2016' is a must win year for them - they know they are dead if a liberal crushes them in general elections. For 2 election cycles we haven't experienced the GOP even making an attempt at energizing it's core base.....They tried the Romney and mccain type of people...... so we believe the GOP is weak fantasy. It's not.

Non -college educated white people and libertarians and ultra conservatives makes up most of the voters - outside of hard core liberals.
Breh, Rubio is gonna get eviscerated on the campaign trail and primaries. He ticks boxes but his mic skills are weak. The only notable thing about him is his ethnicity.

Imo they will tear themselves apart again.
 
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