Madam CJ Walker's great granddaughter throws Netflix series UNDER the salon chair

[Drew Wonder]

This is sad. I watched the series and while it was well-acted I was shocked at how much it focused on the “rivalry” to the point where it came across like an early 20th century black version of Mean Girls.

I get that a TV show/film changes stuff around to make it more “cinematic” but they had plenty of compelling, real life material they could’ve drawn from

As much shyt as people gave Green Book for not consulting Don Shirley’s family that movie treated him and his story with way more respect than Self Made did CJ Walker

Just goes to show that we shouldn’t give black writers/filmmakers a pass just because they’re black, gotta hold them to the same standard. And I say that as an aspiring black screenwriter

 

[get these nets]

As much shyt as people gave Green Book for not consulting Don Shirley’s family that movie treated him and his story with way more respect than Self Made did CJ Walker

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/family-members-call-bs-on-the-green-book-film.689684/

 

[Originalman]

My personal opinion about this series , and the Harriet film.........

Nets this is exactly what happened.

Also the way this movie was written was so dishonest

It would be like telling the story of alabama vs usc in the historic breaking the color barrier game.

And making it seem as though the reason for the lack of integration in southern colleges was due to black folks only wanting to go to HBCUs and not PWIs..

 

[MajesticLion]

Mythologized garbage repackaged as contemporarily-romanticized garbage.

 

[Drew Wonder]

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/family-members-call-bs-on-the-green-book-film.689684/

Oh don’t get me wrong, Green Book was bullshyt too. Just saying in comparison to what Self Made did it wasn’t as egregious

 

[Koba St]

Either we make our own shyt or this is what we have to deal with. These are the facts.

Millions of dollars are spent making these movies and they want to make their money back so they aim for what they feel will attract the widest audience. I haven’t seen it and won’t see it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

when Tariq went in on it yall hated on him

When he's right, he's right

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tar...hread-now-madame-cj-walker-on-netflix.769618/

 

[Drew Wonder]

Either we make our own shyt or this is what we have to deal with. These are the facts.

Millions of dollars are spent making these movies and they want to make their money back so they aim for what they feel will attract the widest audience. I haven’t seen it and won’t see it.

Bruh, the series had black producers, black directors, black writers and black stars, and it still ended up like that.

 

[Koba St]

Bruh, the series had black producers, black directors, black writers and black stars, and it still ended up like that.

Was the money black? That’s the most important thing here

 

[UpAndComing]

Thank you for this thread, now I won't see it

 

[datnigDASTARDLY]

Eh, it was good for what it was

At the very least it gives people the opportunity to actually review the film with real facts. I know I personally looked up the info to better educate myself and check for the differences.

My only real criticism was the choice of music...it didn’t fit at all

 

[surv2syn]

Eh, it was good for what it was

At the very least it gives people the opportunity to actually review the film with real facts. I know I personally looked up the info to better educate myself and check for the differences.

My only real criticism was the choice of music...it didn’t fit at all

this is mostly my stance as well. I know better than to go into these projects thinking I am going to get anything close to accurate stories. sometimes the timelines even be off. people have to understand that "inspired by" or "based on" means nothing more than that. they are just taking a real life person and some real life events and build an entirely different story around it. and today there are always several contrived/shoehorned agendas thrown in for good measure.

 

[datnigDASTARDLY]

this is mostly my stance as well. I know better than to go into these projects thinking I am going to get anything close to accurate stories. sometimes the timelines even be off. people have to understand that "inspired by" or "based on" means nothing more than that. they are just taking a real life person and some real life events and build an entirely different story around it. and today there are always several contrived/shoehorned agendas thrown in for good measure.

facts. in every “biopic” they insert characters to drive the narrative or even merge characters to affect the story.

Nobody’s life is that damn interesting without it, even Bill Gates ass needs some embellishment to be worth a watch

Be glad they made the shyt in the first place, and hopefully inspire the next black mogul, or shyt, give our black actors a damn job. It was great seeing Stan again

 

[tater]

What size audience do you think it would have attracted on that platform without the extras thrown in? A straight dramatic piece that stuck to the actual storyline. Even the casting of Tiffany H. seemed to be done to expand the audience.

I think the lead actors were excellent, and that they elevated the project and it's shortcomings. Black drama is a hard sell and without the soap opera stuff thrown in, fewer people would have tuned in.

This is kind of a moot point imo. The same people would have watched the film if it didn’t have all the colorism and lesbianism in it. I’ll give you the haddish casting as expanding the audience, but outside of that I don’t think adding in those elements garnered any more of an audience. If I knew they butchered her legacy BEFORE seeing the film, I would never have watched it. I think more than anything they alienated audience members. Hollywood changes things around for entertainment purposes in many historical films, but this story stood well on its own without the fluff.

Haddish was miscast. She was too modern and she never acts just plays a caricature of herself. Her speech patterns and even her unspoken actions were too rooted in today’s culture. She was a jarring presence every time she was on screen. Horrible choice imo.

 

[surv2syn]

This is kind of a moot point imo. The same people would have watched the film if it didn’t have all the colorism and lesbianism in it. I’ll give you the haddish casting as expanding the audience, but outside of that I don’t think adding in those elements garnered any more of an audience. If I knew they butchered her legacy BEFORE seeing the film, I would never have watched it. I think more than anything they alienated audience members. Hollywood changes things around for entertainment purposes in many historical films, but this story stood well on its own without the fluff.

Haddish was miscast. She was too modern and she never acts just plays a caricature of herself. Her speech patterns and even her unspoken actions were too rooted in today’s culture. She was a jarring presence every time she was on screen. Horrible choice imo.

have to agree. and no, its no hate, but her presence made me labor through the series and also, I couldnt watch it again based off just that. historically inaccurate, but still, couldve been much more pleasant to sit through without Haddish.