"MA" (Trailer) Featuring Octavia Spencer

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:ohhh: What are the underlying themes for Last House on the Left and Hills Have Eyes??
It follows and Babadook - I have an idea what the meaning of those were about

Craven was of the generation that grew up on Vietnam. So that’s all the shyt they were seeing on tv. And he was a hippy. So he wanted to make an anti violence movie about violence coming out of people you wouldn’t expect. Hence, last house on the left. He wanted something so shocking and so visceral that you had to question it and question violence during an age where they were politicizing and making money off of violent images from war.

Last house on the left came from him doing research on this cannibal family from the 16th or 17th century. One of those centuries. And much like last house on the left, he continued that theme of good guys can become bad guys at the drop of a dime depending on the situation.

Craven was a smart smart smart dude. Most of his movies came from him just being in a library and reading and then having an “ah ha” moment.
 

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Craven was of the generation that grew up on Vietnam. So that’s all the shyt they were seeing on tv. And he was a hippy. So he wanted to make an anti violence movie about violence coming out of people you wouldn’t expect. Hence, last house on the left. He wanted something so shocking and so visceral that you had to question it and question violence during an age where they were politicizing and making money off of violent images from war.

Last house on the left came from him doing research on this cannibal family from the 16th or 17th century. One of those centuries. And much like last house on the left, he continued that theme of good guys can become bad guys at the drop of a dime depending on the situation.

Craven was a smart smart smart dude. Most of his movies came from him just being in a library and reading and then having an “ah ha” moment.
Real talk, thanks for the synopsis. Learning that horror movies can be much more cerebral than I think, going into it.
 

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Real talk, thanks for the synopsis. Learning that horror movies can be much more cerebral than I think, going into it.

Yeah even Freddy has a running theme of children of the 80s being neglected by their parents and the rampant teenage suicide of that era.
 

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Yeah even Freddy has a running theme of children of the 80s being neglected by their parents and the rampant teenage suicide of that era.
:picard::picard: For real?? That's deep..wow. Now that I think about it- that was the tone of a lot of 80s slasher movies, reckless unsupervised teens. I remember reading that Jason, Friday the 13th was about abstinence- warnings about engaging in teenage sex.

kind of ironic about the 80s because that was during the time when I first started watching horror movies at like 6 yrs old- my parents leaving us unattended thinking that we were watching something "safe" or they would go out to an event, I was the youngest at the time, so I would watch whatever my brothers had on. Friday nights my father falling asleep on the couch, they were watching a movie - he would wake up for a few secs, ask me, "This is not too scary for you, is it?" me- "no, daddy, I'm fine:clap:".. him- "ok :snooze:" .....:mjlol:
 

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:picard::picard: For real?? That's deep..wow. Now that I think about it- that was the tone of a lot of 80s slasher movies, reckless unsupervised teens. I remember reading that Jason, Friday the 13th was about abstinence- warnings about engaging in teenage sex.

kind of ironic about the 80s because that was during the time when I first started watching horror movies at like 6 yrs old- my parents leaving us unattended thinking that we were watching something "safe" or they would go out to an event, I was the youngest at the time, so I would watch whatever my brothers had on. Friday nights my father falling asleep on the couch, they were watching a movie - he would wake up for a few secs, ask me, "This is not too scary for you, is it?" me- "no, daddy, I'm fine:clap:".. him- "ok :snooze:" .....:mjlol:

Hustling your dad smh:russ:

But yeah think about all those kids left unsupervised. :francis:

Sean Cunningham (cravens producing partner for last house on the left and the hills have eyes) decided he wanted to rip off Halloween. So he came up with Friday the 13th before there was even a story. Just the name and the poster. Now he and everyone else thought Carpenter was punishing the girls in Halloween for having sex. Carpenter says that couldn’t be further from the truth. The only reason Laurie survived is because she was the only one paying attention. Hollywood took the wrong lessons from it, so all those 80s slashers (in Reagan’s America, no less) became warnings against having sex and became very conservative even if they were bloody and gory as fukk.

Craven never really fell into that trap. Freddy didn’t care if you were fukking or not, he was ready to destroy you:demonic:
 

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:ohhh: What are the underlying themes for Last House on the Left and Hills Have Eyes??
It follows and Babadook - I have an idea what the meaning of those were about
Hills:
The plot moves inexorably towards establishing a structural correspondence between two superficially opposed families who face off in a battle to the death on the desolate site of a U.S. Air Force bomb-testing range. In one corner are the suburban middle-class Carters, headed for Los Angeles by car but making an unwise detour through the Yucca desert to locate a silver mine willed to Ethel and her husband ‘Big Bob’ by a deceased aunt for the couple’s silver wedding anniversary. In the other is a clan of primitive scavengers who live in the surrounding hills and are ruled with an iron fist by a mutated monster-patriarch named Jupiter. This group of cannibalistic guerillas, standing in for any number of oppressed, embattled and downtrodden minority/social/ethnic groups – from African and Native Americans to backwoods hillbillies to (in Tony Williams’ astute analysis) the Viet Cong during the failed 1970s U.S. invasion (1) – manages to eke out a squalid existence by using discarded army surplus tools and weapons for the purpose of committing petty thievery.

When their station wagon crashes in Jupiter’s neck of the desert, the members of the Carter family – including teen siblings Brenda and Bobby, eldest daughter Lynn, Lynn’s husband Doug and the couple’s infant daughter Katy – reveal the extent of their ideologically-inherited arrogance, repression and capacity for denial, all of which makes them prime targets for victimisation by their ruthless, unscrupulous enemies. Big Bob is crucified and finally immolated by his counterpart Papa Jupiter in a highly symbolic act signifying utter repudiation of Judeo-Christian values – values which Big Bob himself hypocritically denounces in an earlier racist diatribe. Two of Jupiter’s sons later raid the Carter’s RV trailer, where they rape Brenda and murder Lynn and Ethel. Stripped of all pretensions, desperate for survival, the remaining members of the Carter clan finally find within themselves the courage, wrath and craftiness to kill off their enemies. The film closes with a powerful red-filtered freeze-frame of Doug in full fury, set to stab Jupiter’s son Mars in the chest though Mars is surely already dead. As D.N. Rodowick succinctly puts it, by the end “we are…to understand [these families] as being two sides of the same coin; or better yet, the violent ‘monster’ family could be characterized as the latent image underlying the depiction of the ‘Whitebreads.’”(2)

It is likely that most viewers of Hills would second Rodowick’s assessment that, “in the final analysis, I’m not sure whether I would consider The Hills Have Eyes to be a progressive text or not.”(6) This can be explained at least in part with reference to the contradiction lying at the heart of Craven’s film: the bourgeois Carter family’s phony values and repressed rage may eventually be exposed, but this does not make any less loathsome or unsympathetic the depiction of Jupiter’s marauding cannibal clan. As in so much of Craven’s work, at the end of the day everyone is guilty, everyone is to blame.

The Hills Have Eyes
 

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This is interesting, both premise wise, plus Octavia still playing Octavia but steering that towards a more sinister direction. We gotta support This one at the box office.

“Don’t make me drink alooone! Don’t make me drink alooone!!” :damn:

Only thing better would be her serving up pie to those teens...a pie that’s made from one of their missing friends :demonic:
 
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