LVP Candidate Blake Griffin 1-11 since OP was made; I lost

[Playaz Eyez]

People seem to be overlooking the fact that the Clippers still had talent (including the influx of talent through the Paul trade). Their core is Blake, Deandre, Bev, and Gallo. Chris Paul, your tough minded leader, 1st team all defense, very good scoring PG has been replaced another tough minded, 1st team all defense, an improving scorer PG. You let go of JJ Redikk, Jamal Crawford, Marreese Speights, and Luc Mbah a Moute and replace them with Lou Williams, Raymond Felton, Gallo, Milos, and if everything goes right, potentially Sam Dekker and Harrell. That's a more than adequate baseline of guys, and I'm not surprised at all that the Clippers are looking the way they do. Seems like people are just using this as an excuse to run down Chris Paul more than anything, as if Blake himself wasn't playing like a stampeding bull and choking himself. There's no pressure nor expectations for the Clipper now that Paul is gone. They can basically just go out there and play ball. That is very good roster they have. It's not like they let Chris Paul walk and were left with Austin Rivers running the point for 38 minutes a night

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I'm team @Gil Scott-Heroin but breh I watched that series too... and especially remember losing bread on that game... CP3 was in no way responsible or the loss at all. Blake kept turning the fukking ball over as he always does. That being said I do agree with your premise that CP doesn't make people better and is pretty overrated, I think you chose a bad example of that though.

CP3 was most definitely responsible for that loss, as was BG and Doc - all three of them played their part in it. If you go back over that 4th quarter with a fine-toothed comb you would see just how Paul's passiveness and inactivity, directly and indirectly, led to the Rockets coming back into that game:

The long and short of it is this - Paul was coasting during the start of the 4th quarter, knowing full well what was at stake - his lack of urgency/passiveness and error of judgement cost them early in 4th quarter (three straight possessions he fukked up), allowing the Rockets to keep gaining confidence along with all the momentum. Paul didn't get the offense stabilized early - he wasn't running anything at all. He and Doc failed to switch up shyt, the Clips went over the same plays and looks which led to the Rockets defense just swallowing up their predictable offense. Griffin went 0-5 with the game in reach, Paul went 1-5 with the game in reach. Griffin missed two easy shots. They both failed to be aggressive when their team needed them to be. If Paul wasn't fading in and out of the 4th quarter, he wasn't moving the ball and failed to get the rest of the team more involved. Doc failed to call timeouts, he failed to call proper sets, and there was a communication breakdown between him and Paul.

Paul ends up missing the rest of his shots when the game’s in reach
They start moving the ball too late and Crawford and Reddikk have gone cold after failing to touch the ball for five minutes and miss makeable shots
Griffin and Paul play hot potato with the ball, making unnecessary passes instead of just trying to score
Paul wasted opportunities by not probing the defense and getting extra defensive attention to open up his wings

By the time they realized the Rockets had taken the lead and extended it, it was too late.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Count all of Blake's defensive miscues starting with him giving up middle penetration on Terrance Jones drive (with the behind the back move).

Blake's defense<<<<

Go back and watch that 4th quarter and see how many "miscues" CP3 makes on offense. Being passive/coasting/fading in and out of the game, not running the offense properly and being predictable, not trying to score/missing shots, playing hot potato with the ball. He does this pretty much every postseason. His play was a MAJOR factor in letting the Rockets back into the game. He isn't solely to blame, but he played a major in part in it, as did Griffin and Doc.

To say that he deserves no blame whatsoever *cough @LV Koopa* is some straight up CP3 stan-excuse bullshyt that we see regurgitated every year when his team crashes out in embarrassing fashion in the playoffs.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're completely right. Ironically this wasn't the first time Blake had choked in those playoffs. The series before he turned the ball over on a pivotal clutch possession against the Spurs in what would've been a won game. He pushed the series out to 7 unnecessarily .

How the hell are you gonna say he's completely right, when you too don't know what the fukk you're talking about?


How did he push the series out to 7 unnecessarily when they were down in that series? How did he unnecessarily push the series out to 7 when he was the MAIN reason why they won Game 6 (elimination game) when CP3 was average? You're gonna blame him for ONE turnover earlier in the series, and not bring up the fact that he was the main reason they extended the series in Game 6?

CP3 stans, y'all.

 

[knickscrusaderm]

How the hell are you gonna say he's completely right, when you too don't know what the fukk you're talking about?


How did he push the series out to 7 unnecessarily when they were down in that series? How did he unnecessarily push the series out to 7 when he was the MAIN reason why they won Game 6 (elimination game) when CP3 was average? You're gonna blame him for ONE turnover earlier in the series, and not bring up the fact that he was the main reason they extended the series in Game 6?

CP3 stans, y'all.

I'm not a CP3 fan. You're also recalling that series wrong so the bolded is ironic . Blake had a costly turnover at the end of game 2 with the clippers up 1-0. The Spurs ended up winning that game down 92-94. So yes it was his fault the series even needed to go 7 technically .

He was not the main reason the clips won game 5 either. CP3 didn't shoot well but he controlled the entire pace of the game.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I'm not a CP3 fan. You're also recalling that series wrong so the bolded is ironic . Blake had a costly turnover at the end of game 2 with the clippers up 1-0. The Spurs ended up winning that game down 92-94. So yes it was his fault the series even needed to go 7 technically .
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That still doesn't make any sense. You should've phrased your post better, because you're making it sound like they were in position to end the series (Game 6) but because of a turnover he pushed it out to 7 unnecessarily. It's almost as if you're ignoring all the games in between (Game 3-6) in which he was the Clippers leading scorer. I also don't understand the point in referencing that ONE play, when on the following possession CP3 missed the last shot that could've won them the game. If BG choked, then so did Paul.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You're gonna blame him for ONE turnover earlier in the series, and not bring up the fact that he was the main reason they extended the series in Game 6?

CP3 stans, y'all.

He was not the main reason the clips won game 5 either. CP3 didn't shoot well but he controlled the entire pace of the game.

Again.....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And @blackcrusaderm whose fault was it "the series even needed to go 7 technically" when CP3 played like garbage with a 7-point performance in the Game 3 loss?

 

[knickscrusaderm]

That still doesn't make any sense. You should've phrased your post better, because you're making it sound like they were in position to end the series (Game 6) but because of a turnover he pushed it out to 7 unnecessarily. It's almost as if you're ignoring all the games in between (Game 3-6) in which he was the Clippers leading scorer. I also don't understand the point in referencing that ONE play, when on the following possession CP3 missed the last shot that could've won them the game. If BG choked, then so did Paul.

it does make sense. Had he not dribbled off his foot the clips need 1 less win and likely don't need to go 7. I don't consider missing ONE shot "choking", I consider an unforced turnover in a pivotal moment to be choking. Plays like CWebb calling that timeout at Michigan is what I believe is choking.

Again.....

breh I had no idea what I was thinking when I posted that . My fault

And @blackcrusaderm whose fault was it "the series even needed to go 7 technically" when CP3 played like garbage with a 7-point performance in the Game 3 loss?

That's not choking its a make or miss league you'll have off nights. Dribbling off your foot is never the wave tho.

 

[The_Third_Man]

Blake has BEEN fukkin incredible

I swear some ppl just don't tune in to the occasional clips game

dude is wild underrated because of his previous injuries

On of the most skilled big men in the game

some people think all he can do is dunk

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Even your fans are trying to show the you the light, Gil.

I ain't reading all that copy-and-paste shyt - it looks like you're just rehashing old arguments that you were already proven wrong on. Anyone can go back to the original threads and see - you're even using arguments that I already debunked back when we had them, but which you tried to defeat with volume and simply burying my posts rather than admitting you were factually wrong.

Worse one is bringing up Tony Allen again - you were UNDENIABLY wrong, I quoted Tony Allen himself saying you were wrong, you had to lie like 7 times about what I had said in that argument and I had to keep correcting your lies over and over...and you STILL keep it going.

Why do you even post here anymore? You're annoying by design, virtually no one reads your long-ass diatribes, no one daps you up anymore, you used to be informative on the game but now you just try to annoy people and fight personal battles...what do your posts here add to your life or anyone else's?

As far as this present argument goes....

I'm team @Gil Scott-Heroin but breh I watched that series too... and especially remember losing bread on that game... CP3 was in no way responsible or the loss at all. Blake kept turning the fukking ball over as he always does. That being said I do agree with your premise that CP doesn't make people better and is pretty overrated, I think you chose a bad example of that though.

I'm not a CP3 fan. You're also recalling that series wrong so the bolded is ironic . Blake had a costly turnover at the end of game 2 with the clippers up 1-0. The Spurs ended up winning that game down 92-94. So yes it was his fault the series even needed to go 7 technically .

He was not the main reason the clips won game 5 either. CP3 didn't shoot well but he controlled the entire pace of the game.

another thread where everyone's favorite overweight welfare cheat @Gil Scott-Heroin gets destroyed by sane and rational posters. Good show.

Count all of Blake's defensive miscues starting with him giving up middle penetration on Terrance Jones drive (with the behind the back move).

Blake's defense<<<<

You're completely right. Ironically this wasn't the first time Blake had choked in those playoffs. The series before he turned the ball over on a pivotal clutch possession against the Spurs in what would've been a won game. He pushed the series out to 7 unnecessarily .

You want to shyt on your least favorite players when they don't win it all (which by definition is a lot of them every year) and you'll keep rewording your hate so that you actually believe you deserve credit when they prove you wrong about them being garbage. Like they're only good because they started listening to what you said after the fact on a message board rather than because of their talents and years and years of training, hard work and dedication. shyt is on some evil genius and yet very psychologically needy level of hating. I salute your persistence in unreasonable and dishonest hating, if only for the fukkery. It's beautiful and sad at the same time.

@Gil Scott-Heroin is just trolling
Trust me I know what trolls look like

Doc Rivers lost that game by not recognizing early enough that Brewer and josh were a real threat...the Clips just laid off of them while they shot 3 after 3....

It’s funny how everybody was mad at Doc at the time but now it’s all cp3’s fault

Predictably moronic thread

the way some of yall go out on a limb to slander the point god

Talk that shyt!

I notice you didn't actually dispute his story though

Facts that cannot be Gilsplained away

• Professor Emeritus
• Oct 28, 2017

Straight heated

• Professor Emeritus
• Oct 28, 2017

Blaming on CP3 is slander

• Professor Emeritus
• Oct 28, 2017

hilarious blake excuse

• Professor Emeritus
• Oct 28, 2017

typical gil diatribe

• Professor Emeritus
• Oct 28, 2017

Scoreboard

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You just keep proving my point, over and over and over and over again. Creating a narrative out of stats instead of the actual game.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Video coming soon


Clippers 4-0

Meanwhile chris paul hurt out 6 weeks

@pete clemenza if u didn't neg this piece of shyt

 

[Maluma]

You just keep proving my point, over and over and over and over again. Creating a narrative out of stats instead of the actual game.

^^welfare cope

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

The last couple of pages been like a damn college course lecture