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How is he stupid? Everything he said was right. America is a country that steals from EVERYONE , domestic and foreign. As far as this election, its an election of picking your poison. On one hand you have Obama, who was a horrible president who shoved us into more debt and more unemployment . And on the other hand you have a corporate greedy wall street duesch bag, Mitt Romney. So I dont blame him for not voting. So again, what did he say that was soooooo stupid :childplease:

if you want to protest, vote 3rd party

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First of all I wanna thank big business, the most important poster with all due respect.

This album coming out was a big fukking deal to me. I was a certified Lupe stan before Food and Liquor even came out. Back in the days when nikkas would argue over Lupe vs. Budden as the best MCs in the game. F&L and The Cool were are classics imo. Then Lasers dropped. It hurt when I didn't buy that album, brehs. :wow: I threw my standom in the bushes and became a fan capable of criticizing my fav rapper. This album was make or break for Lu imo, and I've been listening to it nonstop since Biz dropped the link.


Lupe is back :lawd: I didn't think it was possible but he's gotten stronger lyrically on this one. He's got rid of that southernish accent he was using on Lasers and random tracks around that time and sounds more like The Cool Lu vocally. This was my first time hearing bytch Bad and I ran that back a ton of times before getting to Lambo Angels. Great song, but I feel his premise is a lot more concrete on the little girl's part than the little boy's. And when dude said "malleable" I had to just :snoop:, sounded like a straight up dweeb with the pronunciation. I appreciate Around My Way a lot more in the context of the album. Ayesha's spoken word intro was on par with F&L's and makes me that much angrier at the nikka who ruined Sin City with his bullshyt. I don't see Unforgivabe Youth getting any love but that is an amazing track. When he said "white...house" I was straight :ohhh:

As far as the "faults" of the album, Heart Donor thru Battle Scars was wack. Battle Scars less so. I'm not the type that hates love songs, but Heart Donor and How Dare You sounded like leftover Ghostdieni tracks minus being dope. Lu just sounds uninspired on those tracks. But the bigger problem for me is the concept of the album in general. Food and Liquor was about the balance between good (Food) and Evil (Liquor). This album doesn't have that balance imo. Lu just seems set on focusing on the Liquor. As wonderful and lyrically amazing as tracks like Strange Fruition, Audobon Ballroom, etc are, I think Hood Now might be my favorite track right now just because of its contrast to the rest of the album. It's not Lu carrying a cross for a cause or speaking on the ills of the world but a witty, heartfelt track that actually had me smiling and legit laughing at parts. Lu let his guard down and wasn't trying to prove anything on that track. I'll reserve judgement about him not living up to the concept of Food and Liquor until I hear Pt. 2 since maybe it'll be the opposite of this. But F&L was so great cause you'd have your He Say She Say, The Cool, Hurt Me Soul, American Terrorist but then Kick Push, Sunshine, Just Might Be OK to balance it and live up to the concept of the album. F&L had more heart and emotion. F&L2 was American Terrorist 10 times. I love American Terrorist but it eventually gets too heavy to be bombarded by the ills of the world track after track. Lu was like Immortal Technique but with talent on this album.

That said, F&L2 is album of the year. I really didn't think anyone but Kendrick had a chance of topping Life is Good, but Lu restored my faith in him. This will get copped to join F&L and The Cool. I might even go back and give Lasers another chance...






























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There's the cool Nas fans like Akademik and JoelB who appreciate this album and see qualities of Lu in their personal GOAT Nasir.

And then there's the insecure Nas fans who feel threatened by Lu's greatness and feel the need to downplay his material because in their mind its blasphemous to compare anyone to Nas.

Ain't nobody fooled even when they say shyt like "and I'm a Lupe fan" :pachaha:

I just hope The GOAT and The GOAT Jr. collab on Part 2.

Do you know your father, Versa?

I'm just trying to rationalize why someone would ride so hard for a rapper. Daddy issues could certainly be a reason.
 

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First of all I wanna thank big business, the most important poster with all due respect.

This album coming out was a big fukking deal to me. I was a certified Lupe stan before Food and Liquor even came out. Back in the days when nikkas would argue over Lupe vs. Budden as the best MCs in the game. F&L and The Cool were are classics imo. Then Lasers dropped. It hurt when I didn't buy that album, brehs. :wow: I threw my standom in the bushes and became a fan capable of criticizing my fav rapper. This album was make or break for Lu imo, and I've been listening to it nonstop since Biz dropped the link.


Lupe is back :lawd: I didn't think it was possible but he's gotten stronger lyrically on this one. He's got rid of that southernish accent he was using on Lasers and random tracks around that time and sounds more like The Cool Lu vocally. This was my first time hearing bytch Bad and I ran that back a ton of times before getting to Lambo Angels. Great song, but I feel his premise is a lot more concrete on the little girl's part than the little boy's. And when dude said "malleable" I had to just :snoop:, sounded like a straight up dweeb with the pronunciation. I appreciate Around My Way a lot more in the context of the album. Ayesha's spoken word intro was on par with F&L's and makes me that much angrier at the nikka who ruined Sin City with his bullshyt. I don't see Unforgivabe Youth getting any love but that is an amazing track. When he said "white...house" I was straight :ohhh:

As far as the "faults" of the album, Heart Donor thru Battle Scars was wack. Battle Scars less so. I'm not the type that hates love songs, but Heart Donor and How Dare You sounded like leftover Ghostdieni tracks minus being dope. Lu just sounds uninspired on those tracks. But the bigger problem for me is the concept of the album in general. Food and Liquor was about the balance between good (Food) and Evil (Liquor). This album doesn't have that balance imo. Lu just seems set on focusing on the Liquor. As wonderful and lyrically amazing as tracks like Strange Fruition, Audobon Ballroom, etc are, I think Hood Now might be my favorite track right now just because of its contrast to the rest of the album. It's not Lu carrying a cross for a cause or speaking on the ills of the world but a witty, heartfelt track that actually had me smiling and legit laughing at parts. Lu let his guard down and wasn't trying to prove anything on that track. I'll reserve judgement about him not living up to the concept of Food and Liquor until I hear Pt. 2 since maybe it'll be the opposite of this. But F&L was so great cause you'd have your He Say She Say, The Cool, Hurt Me Soul, American Terrorist but then Kick Push, Sunshine, Just Might Be OK to balance it and live up to the concept of the album. F&L had more heart and emotion. F&L2 was American Terrorist 10 times. I love American Terrorist but it eventually gets too heavy to be bombarded by the ills of the world track after track. Lu was like Immortal Technique but with talent on this album.

That said, F&L2 is album of the year. I really didn't think anyone but Kendrick had a chance of topping Life is Good, but Lu restored my faith in him. This will get copped to join F&L and The Cool. I might even go back and give Lasers another chance...


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Just got done listening to the album for the first time earlier this morning. That shyt is solid production wise. I haven't had a moment to really digest the lyrics, but on the surface he was on point. The only criticism I have so far on this album, and him in general is that his voice and mic presense does nothing for me. His substance makes up for that, but there's times I wish he would commandeer the mic. When you think of other conscience emcees, they grabbed your attention with their very presense on a track.

KRS and Cube for instance would through their passion grab you by the collar without actually being in their physical presense and force you to hear what they had to say. I can't say the same about Lupe. There's a certain aggression and confidence missing with him. At times he even bores me, but I can't deny his talent. Gonna give this album some more listens. So far, it's dope.
 
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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such
 

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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such



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