Luken Level of Lies : Cuban Link Catches Fat Joe in Yet Another Lie, This Time About B.I.G. ; Update : C-Gutta Calls Cap on Joe 🤣

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Rice N Beans said:
Probably could have but once Pun passed Joe shelved everything not his own shyt. :yeshrug: Joe starved everyone out unless you were willing to continue supporting his act (ex. Armageddon).

Think the only person to leave out of that timeframe with relevance is Remy Ma, but even she'd trade Joe's life for Pun's. :lolbron:
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This dude was never signed to Joe he signed his own deal with Universal and dropped an album that flopped badly.

Nobody has really managed to solve the puzzle to why he is so mad :mjlol:

It always goes back to the incident when he tried to intervene in some fight and got slashed. But that makes no sense and he’s always juelzing wildly when he talks about it.

Last time he was talking about hating Joe due to Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party and a dj conference in Puerto Rico in 05 with Khaled or something :unimpressed:
 
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“The Pale whale beluga” :mjlol:

I’m definitely keeping that in the chamber in case I ever get into it with a white girl.
 
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Awesome Wells said:
Nah, Cuban wasn't officially signed to Joe. He didn't want to be.

He didn't want to release his music under Joe anymore, after Pun passed. So they had issues over that because he was supposed to drop on TS. So once he started acting up, Joe cut him off and told him to just drop on Atlantic directly. But Atlantic didn't want him without the TS affiliation. His career was over after that.

Remy was also Pun's people. But she's always been loyal to Joe, so Joe has taken care of her. Joe looks out for his people. But Cuban was a weirdo and resented Joe. Even 24 years ago. So he started going on radio and saying crazy sh*t. And that's what got him throw out.
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I heard it from Fat Joe's own mouth and his tip-toeing around suggesting a blackball or shelving over the album. That includes the obviously fugzai projection numbers. Let's just be objective. Fat Joe says projected 20k of sales, in one of the peak CD buying eras, with P!nk (at height) on the single, too? In the midst of Pun's passing, no less, so there was additional exposure outside whatever they spent on marketing.

I judge Joe very negatively here and between the sideways talk about 24K, or him leading on Armageddon for decades, or solidifying nobody else got to the front lets me know the time he's on. Remy Ma is a good example in that she had to leave Joe's immediate sphere to get anything going, and only then did Joe want to continue to rock with her. Armageddon is as loyal as can be and yet still got no album.
 
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Rice N Beans said:
I heard it from Fat Joe's own mouth and his tip-toeing around suggesting a blackball or shelving over the album. That includes the obviously fugzai projection numbers. Let's just be objective. Fat Joe says projected 20k of sales, in one of the peak CD buying eras, with P!nk (at height) on the single, too? In the midst of Pun's passing, no less, so there was additional exposure outside whatever they spent on marketing.

I judge Joe very negatively here and between the sideways talk about 24K, or him leading on Armageddon for decades, or solidifying nobody else got to the front lets me know the time he's on. Remy Ma is a good example in that she had to leave Joe's immediate sphere to get anything going, and only then did Joe want to continue to rock with her. Armageddon is as loyal as can be and yet still got no album.
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I've known Joe forever. I saw how badly he was trying to support Cuban during that time and holding meetings with Atlantic and Craig Kallman to keep Cuban and get behind his project. They didn't want it. Joe tried for that dude.

So all of Cuban's misfortunes come from making bad decisions and doing dumb sh*t. He's a dummy. Look at how he carries himself today. He's the same idiot he's always been. So people like Cuban never learn or grow up. And that's why their lives end up the way they do. He burned mad bridges. He has to accept that.
 
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Awesome Wells said:
I've known Joe forever. I saw how badly he was trying to support Cuban during that time and holding meetings with Atlantic and Craig Kallman to keep Cuban and get behind his project. They didn't want it. Joe tried for that dude.

So all of Cuban's misfortunes come from making bad decisions and doing dumb sh*t. He's a dummy. Look at how he carries himself today. He's the same idiot he's always been. So people like Cuban never learn or grow up. And that's why their lives end up the way they do. He burned mad bridges. He has to accept that.
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I understand you have something on a personal level here and I appreciate you mentioning that because most wouldn't. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Cuban's own buffoonery, because he has that pendejo in him too. :lolbron:

But I go on what I've seen and heard from the chubby man himself. :manny: In results, nobody else from that time frame ate once Pun passed no matter the loyalty. There are pretty good examples with Armageddon and Remy Ma, as stated before.

For relation to the thread, it ain't far fetched to see Joe stretching something to make himself look good. Breh lies extra for the sauce - good or bad.
 
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Tommy Gibbs said:
"I gave Steve Jobs the idea for the iphone. Me and my nikkas were out in Cali doing press for the Me Myself and I album and this white guy walks in the room. We're talking and the idea of cell phones came up. I gave him the idea of an all-in-one phone. I DID THAT!!! About a year later, the iPhone drops and I see the dude on tv that we were kicking it with. I have no reason to lie about this shyt!!"

--Fat Joe about being responsible for iPhone.
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