Luka Doncic traded to Lakers for Anthony Davis (Shams) He might be hacked?? IDK* ITS REAL DAMMIT

Is this gonna have major ramifications??

  • Yes players era is over

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Barney Rubble

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People were saying this back in February that the Lakers were not the 1st call. Except the word back then was it was Giannis, not Wemby. Even Nico is not that drunk.

Yeah, he's saying this is facts. He said the new ownership didn't like Luka at all cuz they couldn't control him.
 
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If you really think this was ALL "Nico the GM being on a power trip"- then the jokes on you Jack! Nico's fault was caving to the pressure and timeline and not being able to get more for Luka without Luka finding out the OWNERSHIP isn't willing to pay him the supermax and has made him trade available.
Ownership knows the value of Luka to the bottom line outside of the basketball aspect, same as why Gilbert was so shytty at Lebron- these people have deals in place with other local powers that be, real estate developers, new businesses, etc. and you really think that this was a Nico- GM power trip decision- cmon man:aicmon::what:
Except that's what it was.

The idea of trading Luka came well before the new owners were even on board.

One of the most damaging fractures in their relationship came when Nico fired staff members that Luka was close with (before the Adelsons took over), leading to Luka actually bringing in his own conditioning team.
Though Doncic is a generational superstar, Harrison had growing concerns about his conditioning and habits off of the court. Doncic would experience significant weight fluctuations throughout a season, a problem the organization attempted to address.

To try and take action, the Mavericks started making changes around Doncic in hopes that they would benefit him and make his conditioning more consistent. Per Tim MacMahon and Ramona Shelburne of ESPN, the Mavericks fired former director of player health and performance Casey Smith in 2023, and fired strength coach Jeremy Holsopple and manual therapist Casey Spangler after last season—all staffers that Doncic enjoyed working with.

"They get rid of everybody I like," Doncic told an ESPN source
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The Mavericks’ firings did not work. Per ESPN, Doncic wound up hiring his own personal staff before last season, bringing in Slovenian national team strength coach Anže Maček, physiotherapist Javier Barrio Calvo and Real Madrid nutritionist Lucia Almendros. This only increased the frustrations in the Mavericks organization while not improving Doncic's health.
The Adelsons don't know shyt about hoops and Nico was able to take advantage of that. If they would've had the foresight of knowing what monetary mutilation this trade would've had on the franchise, chances are they wouldn't have agreed to it in the first place.
 

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Except that's what it was.

The idea of trading Luka came well before the new owners were even on board.

One of the most damaging fractures in their relationship came when Nico fired staff members that Luka was close with (before the Adelsons took over), leading to Luka actually bringing in his own conditioning team.

The Adelsons don't know shyt about hoops and Nico was able to take advantage of that. If they would've had the foresight of knowing what monetary mutilation this trade would've had on the franchise, chances are they wouldn't have agreed to it in the first place.


Hard to believe they didn't know/realize this. They have access to the jersey sale numbers. They didn't run this by the marketing department? :gucci:
 
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Hard to believe they didn't know/realize this. They have access to the jersey sale numbers. They didn't run this by the marketing department? :gucci:
It's hard to answer that accurately without knowing what was going on behind closed doors. But my estimation is that because the organization had been mulling over trading him for a minute, whatever they perceived his value to the franchise to be, it wasn't worth the effort to keep him. It's not that jersey sales wouldn't have factored into it, it's that they didn't matter in the grand scheme of things (or so they thought).

  • Luka plays a brand of basketball that generates raw numbers that overstate his impact. This has gotten better over the last few years but the Mavericks’ own internal models showed him as significantly overrated
  • There are questions about Luka’s commitment to doing the things that lead to winning like getting back in transition, rotating on defense, boxing out, being conditioned etc. It appears these questions are much more serious than this sub thinks
  • Luka requires very specific team construction to get the best out of him
  • This trade would have never happened with Mark Cuban at the helm and Nico Harrison surrounded himself with “yes-men”
In summary the author agreed with the decision to trade him but thought they could’ve gotten more. While the author was with the Mavs he had proposed a Luka for Tatum + picks trade for example.

The most interesting part of the article imo is that the Mavs’ own internal models showed that Luka is overrated, this is especially notable since they have by far the most data on him.
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These were seeds that were planted long ago.

By the time the Adelsons came on board, it had already grown into this tree that casted a shadow over what was reality. They probably bought the idea that because the team would be in a better position to compete for a title by trading Luka that it would be reflective in everything else, thus not hurting their bottom line.
 

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Hard to believe they didn't know/realize this. They have access to the jersey sale numbers. They didn't run this by the marketing department? :gucci:
of course they knew. NBA fans are weird is fukk with this Nico shyt. He's not the mastermind behind this shyt. He's a puppet plain and simple. Of course the owners knew this was gonna happen. They're banking on it so they can leave Dallas for Vegas.
 
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of course they knew. NBA fans are weird is fukk with this Nico shyt. He's not the mastermind behind this shyt. He's a puppet plain and simple. Of course the owners knew this was gonna happen. They're banking on it so they can leave Dallas for Vegas.
Why just make up bullshyt like this? Why ignore the fact Nico and Luka were at odds before the new ownership took over? Why ignore the fact Nico shaped the narrative around Luka before the new ownership took over?

Y'all weird as fukk denying factual events that happened to run interference for Nico.
 

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of course they knew. NBA fans are weird is fukk with this Nico shyt. He's not the mastermind behind this shyt. He's a puppet plain and simple. Of course the owners knew this was gonna happen. They're banking on it so they can leave Dallas for Vegas.
The NBA is not going to let the Mavs move from the 4th largest tv market to the 40th. Doesn't make any sense for anybody. :comeon: Vegas is earmarked for the expansion slot.
 

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It's hard to answer that accurately without knowing what was going on behind closed doors. But my estimation is that because the organization had been mulling over trading him for a minute, whatever they perceived his value to the franchise to be, it wasn't worth the effort to keep him. It's not that jersey sales wouldn't have factored into it, it's that they didn't matter in the grand scheme of things (or so they thought).


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These were seeds that were planted long ago.

By the time the Adelsons came on board, it had already grown into this tree that casted a shadow over what was reality. They probably bought the idea that because the team would be in a better position to compete for a title by trading Luka that it would be reflective in everything else, thus not hurting their bottom line.

It's still wild to come to this conclusion off a Finals appearance. Nico been talking about "defense wins championships" and his plan was to depend on an older, less durable and worse defensive player in Kyrie:gucci:. Sh*t is legit deranged.:mjlol:
 

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Why just make up bullshyt like this? Why ignore the fact Nico and Luka were at odds before the new ownership took over? Why ignore the fact Nico shaped the narrative around Luka before the new ownership took over?

Y'all weird as fukk denying factual events that happened to run interference for Nico.
no GM in history had ever had the power to go over the ownerships heads and make a decision like this. When you add in the fact that the fans are shytting all over this...they're losing millions due to lack of jersey sales...and have lost all emotional equity between their fanbase. In what world would anybody be able to make a decision like this...without the greenlight from ownership
...that has resulted in these catastrophic consequences...because he was "at odds with Luka"...and he get to keep his job? That narrative is illogical. That narrative has you all talking about this shyt months later still confused like you don't know how this could happen. It all makes sense to me.
 
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Why just make up bullshyt like this? Why ignore the fact Nico and Luka were at odds before the new ownership took over? Why ignore the fact Nico shaped the narrative around Luka before the new ownership took over?

Y'all weird as fukk denying factual events that happened to run interference for Nico.

These new owners had to know NOTHING about basketball to give this the ok.

Owners always want to put their hands on the new toy. So maybe if they were willing to pay him the supermax and get the new arena then he wouldn't have gotten traded..

But.. ownership wants to cut cost.. and the narrative you say Nico spun played the ending factors to the trade..

But trust ownership was like :ehh:
 

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I saw a tweet from someone saying they'd rather lose with Luka than win with anyone else. You can hate the trade but that mentality is completely stupid.
 

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The NBA is not going to let the Mavs move from the 4th largest tv market to the 40th. Doesn't make any sense for anybody. :comeon: Vegas is earmarked for the expansion slot.
They will if viewership, attendance, and their cut of the merchandise goes down in that market. Which it has. They will if they have alternative ownership options in the Dallas area, that have better standing than the Adelsons, that would be willing to own a basketball team. Shouldn't to be hard to find that in Dallas. Ya'll underestimating the desire Adam Silver has to make his mark on his era of the NBA. They will make some moves happen if a player that should be a superstar is not meeting his superstar potential cuz he plays for Mavericks. This NBA shyt is a mob. I wouldnt be surprised if Adam Silver used his influence to get Brunson and Luka to bigger markets.
 
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no GM in history had ever had the power to go over the ownerships heads and make a decision like this. When you add in the fact that the fans are shytting all over this...they're losing millions due to lack of jersey sales...and have lost all emotional equity between their fanbase. In what world would anybody be able to make a decision like this...without the greenlight from ownership
...thay has resulted in these catastrophic consequences...and he get to keep his job? Your narrative is illogical.
This is a completely different argument to the one you initially made.

Nobody is saying Nico didn't need the green light from ownership, that's already been established.

But he is the mastermind behind all this. He's the puppet master.

He enacted this plan before the Adelsons even gained control of the Mavs. He fired staff that were close with Luka in attempt to change his conditioning before the Adelsons took control. He dripped poison into the ears of anyone who was willing to listen to his bullshyt about Luka before the Adelsons even stepped foot in the door.

If the Adelsons really wanted a team in Vegas they would've waited out for when the league inevitably expands in the not too distant future.
These new owners had to know NOTHING about basketball to give this the ok.

Owners always want to put their hands on the new toy. So maybe if they were willing to pay him the supermax and get the new arena then he wouldn't have gotten traded..

But.. ownership wants to cut cost.. and the narrative you say Nico spun played the ending factors to the trade..

But trust ownership was like :ehh:
If cutting costs was of the highest priority, they would've signed Luka to the supermax, because they would've easily made that money back with the revenue that he generated for them. In fact, he already made that money 10x over for them. Not to then trade for an older, more injury prone player who'll be on the books at $60m a season in 2026, 2027 and 2028*.

They'll essentially be paying a mid-30s AD, relatively the same amount that they would having Luka on a supermax. Go figure.

And we all know that AD isn't bringing in them a profit that Luka did, so no matter which way anyone tries to slice it, they're going to be worse off, regardless.

Paying Luka was the lesser of two evils if the objective was to cut costs. And judging by Nico's latest comments, he's shamelessly trying to shift the narrative to where it was Luka who didn't want to sign a new deal with the Mavs, purely to get the stank off himself.
I saw a tweet from someone saying they'd rather lose with Luka than win with anyone else. You can hate the trade but that mentality is completely stupid.
That illustrates how bad the trade was and how much Luka meant to the fanbase.

When you draft a player and he pulls a franchise out of the mud to where the fanbase will ride or die with them, win or lose, you don't just easily give that up for what you perceive to be a better chance at winning. The Mavs could've gone the next five years without winning a title with Luka, and the fanbase would gladly swallow it. Now we see that they'd give up the prospect of winning if it meant getting him back.
 
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It's still wild to come to this conclusion off a Finals appearance. Nico been talking about "defense wins championships" and his plan was to depend on an older, less durable and worse defensive player in Kyrie:gucci:. Sh*t is legit deranged.:mjlol:


I think Nico knew, or at least, he knows now, that the bullshyt he was spinning eventually became a lie when they reached the Finals, but he had come too far not to continue fighting on it where he had to double down and see it through. Luka getting injured early in the season to where Nico could spin it into him not being in the right condition was all the incentive he needed to trade him.

It is deranged, but because Nico (and whomever else was in his corner) had believed in this story for a while, it was less deranged to them and more what they considered was reality.

Tell yourself a story enough times and you'll eventually believe it to be true.
 
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