‘Loyal Slave’ Monuments Tell a Racist Lie About American History

[ORDER_66]

Just fukkin wow, right in your face

I would blow it up with a half ton of dynamite...

 

[xoxodede]

Propaganda.
I read something over the weekend . It said that the winners get to the tell the story after the war, but in post civil war South, it's been the losers that have gotten to tell the story.
There's a current thread up in this section of the board about Medgar Evers' home becoming a national monument. Some questioned the purpose of that and whether the politicians' effort couldn't be better served fighting for benefits for African Americans. I didn't see it as an either/ or issue. His home becoming a (protected) national monument helps to prevent others from trying to erase his story and the story of what he was fighting against. History matters.

I'm a member of the Civil War Forum - with mostly all white men and women.

I go there for research purposes and to learn.

It's a few of us on there -- but I guess Im the youngest. It's a few noted Black history scholars on the forum - that have become good friends.

The white people on the forum -- know about slavery -- and what our ancestors went through more than we do.

And they talk about it more than we do as Black people. Daily topics on all things slavery and the CW.

I have to take breaks cause they are openly racist -- and reading some of the comments there will make you find out where they live and pull up.

Its' this White Supremacist from SC who has a whole thread with nothing but old newspaper clippings of news about Black confederates.

It's so sickening -- cause you know they owned and still own the press and can write whatever shyt they want. But, this man continues to post thousands of these old clippings to try to front like they willingly signed up.

 

[saturn7]

Looks like the Dems might have to make their own statues for the CBC.

 

[Citi Trends]

It’s a deplorable lie and attitude that gets perpetuated through media, monuments and so called historical accounts

You visit these plantations and you see it all over the signs and hear it from the white people running them that “their slaves were taken care of and were loyal to their masters”

I had a teacher tell me in school that slavery actually wasn’t that bad and slaves were willing to fight for the confederacy.

The thing is when you look at historical accounts of enslaved, even the ones who were treated “good” and were maybe allowed to see other parts of like that most slaves weren’t, when they gained their freedom they would go north and assist other free blacks in ending slavery, helping others escape and even fight for reparations. But they won’t talk about that.

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Myths & Misunderstandings | Black Confederates | American Civil War Museum

There is no question that tens of thousands of enslaved and free African Americans served with Confederate armies as body servants, laborers, teamsters, hospital workers, and cooks. But were these men “soldiers” in any real sense of the word? Partisans of the “Black Confederate” viewpoint answer in the affirmative, comparing the roles black men played in the Confederate army with analogous job descriptions of modern American soldiers, the labor battalions in the World Wars (especially those who were drafted and thus “forced” into service), and even the menial labor that U.S. Colored Troops units performed during the Civil War.

But were African American laborers in the Confederate army formally enlisted in the army, equipped with uniforms, arms, and accoutrements, and paid for their own work, as were African Americans in the U.S. Army? No. Their status was that of enslaved or marginally free laborers serving in capacities in a military setting analogous to their roles in civilian life. Referring to such men as “soldiers” ignores a fundamental distinction between forced labor and military service.

 

[Samori Toure]

I am not even outraged by that dumb shyt. I am actually outraged by the fact that American history has omitted the large number of slave rebellions that happened in the USA. From the Stono Rebellion to Nat Turner there is rarely mention of slave rebellions; including possibly the second biggest slave rebellion of all; which was the Second Seminole War.

 

[HarlemHottie]

@xoxodede, What's the name of that forum? PM if you see fit.

 

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

Just fukkin wow, right in your face

nikka

 

[get these nets]

I'm a member of the Civil War Forum - with mostly all white men and women.

I go there for research purposes and to learn.

It's a few of us on there -- but I guess Im the youngest. It's a few noted Black history scholars on the forum - that have become good friends.

The white people on the forum -- know about slavery -- and what our ancestors went through more than we do.

And they talk about it more than we do as Black people. Daily topics on all things slavery and the CW.

I have to take breaks cause they are openly racist -- and reading some of the comments there will make you find out where they live and pull up.

Its' this White Supremacist from SC who has a whole thread with nothing but old newspaper clippings of news about Black confederates.

It's so sickening -- cause you know they owned and still own the press and can write whatever shyt they want. But, this man continues to post thousands of these old clippings to try to front like they willingly signed up.

thanks

You've got thick skin. I worked around an older white South African guy before and he just had a weird energy around him. People use the term WS, but its weird to be around that type of energy from actual white supremacist. White forum members you're describing seem to radiate that same energy.

I used to wonder how some of you ladies here put up with some of the ugliness that comes out of this forum sometimes, but if you can stomach discussions with Civil War revisionists....then the Coli is a cakewalk.


The good news is that Black scholars are out there writing books and correcting things for the record.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Just fukkin wow, right in your face

how is that still up

 

[Roland Coltrane]

I am not even outraged by that dumb shyt. I am actually outraged by the fact that American history has omitted the large number of slave rebellions that happened in the USA. From the Stono Rebellion to Nat Turner there is rarely mention of slave rebellions; including possibly the second biggest slave rebellion of all; which was the Second Seminole War.

On a side note, while I was in the army I knew a marine who was anti black to the core. When I told him that the Seminoles had black members in their tribe and many were mixed themselves he lost his damn mind


In my heart of hearts, I honestly hate non whites who engage in anti black racism than cacs themselves

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I am not even outraged by that dumb shyt. I am actually outraged by the fact that American history has omitted the large number of slave rebellions that happened in the USA. From the Stono Rebellion to Nat Turner there is rarely mention of slave rebellions; including possibly the second biggest slave rebellion of all; which was the Second Seminole War.

Really the Gullah wars.

 

[Samori Toure]

Really the Gullah wars.

Yup that is exactly what it was. Those Black Seminole Indians were actually Gullahs that ran away from the plantations in South Carolina and Georgia (where they are called Geechees); to the swamps in Northern and Central Florida.

Black Seminoles—Gullahs Who Escaped From Slavery
https://glc.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Black Seminoles .pdf


Again it has to be stated that Seminole Indian/Gullah Wars was probably the second largest slave revolt in the Western Hemisphere behind the revolt in Haiti. That revolt shows the true con artist nature of White people, because they don't even acknowledge it or any other slave revolt in the USA. Their propaganda is that Black slaves were docile with no desire for freedom, which was the furthest thing from truth; because slave revolts and fear of slave revolts were a constant during the slavery era and it is how modern police departments got its start from slave patrols and night watches.

A Brief History of Slavery and the Origins of American Policing | Police Studies Online
Slavery and Today's Policing

 

[staticshock]

What kills me is that in Montgomery, they have high schools named after Confederate generals, and the schools are all black


Also with Joseph Wheeler High in Marietta GA. Lot of NBA players went there..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm a member of the Civil War Forum - with mostly all white men and women.

@xoxodede, What's the name of that forum? PM if you see fit.

most likely, civilwartalk.com