Lord Jamar : Lil Kim is the Grandmother of F#ckin up All These Motaf#ckin Brawds!!!

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Because Da Brat, Missy, Lauryn and Eve came out a year before, the next year and the year after and sold the same amount of records that Kim did.

You didn't have to take your clothes off in the 90's to move units. You just had to be dope enough to reach both dudes and females. Very few back then could do that. Very few today can do it. Same sh*t, different year.

This.

Even crazier is that Lauryn Hill was outselling all of them. Missy actually had a longer shelf life. It was like female rappers maxed out at 3 albums. The third album was usually the last album or the albums beyond that were flops. Missy defied it because her third and fourth albums were her most successful. The fifth and sixth were also successful.
 

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actually she's not. Years before Lil Kim(and even Biggie), there was Choice, BWP, and HWA. Lord Jamar should know this being that he's at least 6 years older than me and likely did a show or 2 with at least one of the 3 artists I mentioned over 30 years ago.
 
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actually she's not. Years before Lil Kim(and even Biggie), there was Choice, BWP, and HWA. Lord Jamar should know this being that he's at least 6 years older than me and likely did a show or 2 with at least one of the 3 artists I mentioned over 30 years ago.
Came in to say this.



Willie D man..:pachaha:
 

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Jamar is absolutely right. Whoredom has always been a significant part of culture, to my man off camera's point, but the shift that came after Kim is undeniable. You aren't getting any traction as a female rapper without talking about your p*ssy. Just like dude's couldn't get traction for the longest if they weren't telling street tales. Hoe/stripper rap is the female version of gangsta/street/trap/drill whatever you wanna call it rap. And that's what funny to me about dude....he doesn't have the same smoke for the male equivalent. He will call this whore shyt out. He will call feminizing dudes out. But not only is there no smoke for the street shyt but he rides with it. At least that's all I have ever seen. If somebody got proof to the contrary please post it. I will take my L.
 

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This.

Even crazier is that Lauryn Hill was outselling all of them. Missy actually had a longer shelf life. It was like female rappers maxed out at 3 albums. The third album was usually the last album or the albums beyond that were flops. Missy defied it because her third and fourth albums were her most successful. The fifth and sixth were also successful.

Truth.

Late 80's and early 90's, the female MC's brought in both dudes and females. Everyone rocked with them. After that era, it changed unless you were special special. That's what Missy was. Da Brat had a lot of fans from both sides too. And Lauryn was the same. Everyone loved her. But they don’t really last for too many albums, like you said. I think because people kinda see female rappers as gimmicks. R&B is different, where people will f*ck with you forever as long as you're dropping dope music.

People don’t really stick around for the females in Hip Hop. It's not easy for them. And today, the ones who are naked all day seem to only be making music for the females. You don’t see the well-rounded female MC's at the top anymore.
 
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