HARLEM AL
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..... This nikka 
@SkiHatDaGawd
@HARLEM AL
So the both of yall finally admit Floyd ducking Manny?
No f*** way, this is some crazy twilight zone shyt.
LOL @ Floyd's twitter post
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..... This nikka
Lies, Cotto asked for bigger gloves last minuteFloyd chose Cotto's gloves
I wouldnt say Floyd's ducking Bradley. They've never even discussed a fight between the 2.
Bradley will be a FA after his next fight on TR and I believe he will resign with GB in order to try and make a fight with Floyd actually
I didn't ignore Manny... the problem is you're too stupid to understand that Manny didn't turn down $40 million... what he turned down was a 0% ppv revenue cut, which was a smack in the face . Floyd actually turned down $50 million AND a 55/45 cut of the revenue.. Fight would've done at least 3 million buys back in 2011 so you do the math... Is Floyds "position" to make less money fighting Cotto??Not to mention, Floyd was still refusing to work with Arum who he knows Pac is loyal too...
Now if you were being objective you wouldn't be giving Floyd a pass for turning down $50-100 million over a damn revenue split
It dont make a damn difference if Floyd wouldn't couldn't shouldn't fight Pac... Floyd's actions over the years proves he WOULDN'T fight Pac... Dont see Pacquiao making public declarations that he will never work with Golden Boy... Last time I remember Bob Arum attempting to make the fight happen Golden Boy was lying about negotiations even taking place and were exposed twice for it .....meanwhile Floyd clings to Golden Boy who completely ruined their relationship with HBO and has refused to work with Todd Debuf or Arum ...
So you're trying to tell me Floyd refuses to do any business with Bob Arum, Debuf, TR, etc.the people Pac is loyal to.... but he wants to fight Pac.... again
There you go moving the goalpost again. Everything is a "slap in the face" to Manny and "more than enough" for Floyd. You're a joke. This dude Manny has never sniffed $40 million even with his base salaries and PPV back end now. Why is $40 million a "slap in the face" to him? He'd love to see $40 million total, but for some reason when Floyd's name is attached, all of a sudden it's a low ball deal? The game hasn't changed, just the face as the A-side. Oscar and Floyd fought in the highest grossing fight in history. Floyd wasn't the A-side and he ate every single demand that Oscar handed out, even the purse. Floyd and Canelo just gave us one of the biggest fights in history and Canelo ate every demand Floyd handed out, even the purse. Both times the B-side received their biggest purse they've ever received. $40 million would be the most Pac cashed out BY FAR! And you clowns keep coming up with creative ways to say $40 million dollars = "ducking".
And how does Floyd's actions show he wouldn't fight Pac? Did you forget that when it looked like Floyd would be in the joint by May, Arum said Pac would be ready for the fight then, BUT as soon as Floyd pleaded and received from the court a stay for another month, ALL OF A SUDDEN...."Pac's cut wasn't gonna heal by then"...NO WAIT...."we wouldn't have time to build an outdoor stadium"....FOH! You're not being objective at all. Floyd's only downfall in this negotiation is that he's being a little too shrewd. That's it. He's doing nothing now that no other A-side fighter in history has never done. You're just being emotional about it cause it's Pac involved. And you're talking about somebody "clinging" to a promotional company and ignore Pac again. Oscar wanted greener pastures...LEFT TOP RANK! Floyd wanted greener pastures.....LEFT TOP RANK! Cotto wanted greener pastures....LEFT TOP RANK! Don't see the pattern? All these guys wanted to fight the best guy out there and they put pressure on the promotional company to make it happen. Top Rank has a history of not making it happen, forcing their fighters to leave to get the fight they wanted. But..I get it...it's on Floyd to stop dealing with GBP who helped garner the richest sports contract in history, not on Manny to leave Top Rank who still has him entangled in IRS/VisionQwest drama and borrowing $10K to keep your donation promises...clown.
I remember that convo
If dude's hands weren't so fukked he would be the perfect boxer
I will say this though going to jail made dude grow up a lot man. I would never want anyone to go to jail but it helped him reconcile with his dad and look at the bigger picture.
Still not excusing him for giving up a belt he EARNED because he doesn't want to fight a guy.
Did you "still not excuse him for giving up a belt he EARNED" when he beat Shane and told him to keep the belt over santioning fees?
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Stop it breh, we know Floyd only cares about the green belts
And this is totally different than not paying a sanctioning fee but still getting in the ring
, this is giving him the title instead of fighting him.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
To be fair this was pre jail Floyd, going to jail really made dude grow up.
Stop it breh, we know Floyd only cares about the green belts
And this is totally different than not paying a sanctioning fee but still getting in the ring
No...stop bending reality to fit your narrative. Obviously Floyd don't care about a belt cause he fought and didn't take the belt that he EARNED against Shane (but nobody thought that was a sign of cowardice, huh?)This is more about Floyd not letting one of the alphabets dictate his business. And you should feel ashamed to even use that as a barometer anyway. Shouldn't you be championing for Tim Bradley the way you are for Pac? How does the undefeated champion who already beat Pac and JMM get leapfrogged by a guy who is fresh off of two losses and a win against a fringe contender who just lost his previous fight? You're displeasures aren't genuine. Fans of BOXERS as opposed to BOXING make it very hard to have decent back and forth banter about the fight game.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
If you can't see the difference in fighting someone but not paying a sanctioning fee and giving someone a belt because you do not want to fight them, then that's on you.
But don't come in here saying I am championing Pac, I've gone on record here PLENTY of times saying both sides are at fault here. More so Floyd now because we know Manny is willing to take an L in negotiations with all the IRS shyt going on. So how am I championing Pac exactly? This is the problem with you stans, we can't say ANYTHING without you dudes doing mental gymnastics into thinking we are bigging up Pac.
Shouldn't I be championing Bradley????? nikka did you even purchase his last ppv?? I did. Do you even post in the boxing thread? You're such a big fan of boxing yet I never see you there?
That "fan of boxers as opposed to boxing " line doesn't work on me friend. Any poster here can tell you the only fighter I'm even a bit close to biased is Hopkins and I try to stay out of conversations involving him for that reason.
If you can't see the difference in fighting someone but not paying a sanctioning fee and giving someone a belt because you do not want to fight them, then that's on you.
But don't come in here saying I am championing Pac, I've gone on record here PLENTY of times saying both sides are at fault here. More so Floyd now because we know Manny is willing to take an L in negotiations with all the IRS shyt going on. So how am I championing Pac exactly? This is the problem with you stans, we can't say ANYTHING without you dudes doing mental gymnastics into thinking we are bigging up Pac.
Shouldn't I be championing Bradley????? nikka did you even purchase his last ppv?? I did. Do you even post in the boxing thread? You're such a big fan of boxing yet I never see you there?
That "fan of boxers as opposed to boxing " line doesn't work on me friend. Any poster here can tell you the only fighter I'm even a bit close to biased is Hopkins and I try to stay out of conversations involving him for that reason.
It's not about paying sanctioning fees vs giving up a belt....it's about not letting an organization dictate business, and you know that. You're too busy trying to be right that you don't even know the rabbit hole you're setting yourself up for. Once Floyd gives up the WBC belt and Manny becomes de facto champ, guess who moves up to #1 contender? Luis fukkING Abregu! I would love to come on here in a few months to read how much of a coward Manny is for fighting someone else other than his mandatory, but I won't. WBC can't dictate Manny's business, just like they can't with Floyd. This is a weasal move by the WBC, and here you go running with this crap. And miss me with this "I don't ever see you post in boxing threads" as if that is a sign of my fandom. I have a life outside of this forum. We've been on this site roughly the same amount of time and I don't even think I have 500 total posts. And you have??? Exactly. Step your common sense and research game up and stop spewing emotional rhetoric that the media is feeding you. In no other world would it make sense to have Zab Judah ranked ahead of Paulie, the guy that just whooped him, except the WBC...but that's the argument you choose to hang your hat on?? FOH!
krackdagawd
Inspire.
So you are Floyd's accountant now? You are worrying about who dictates what or how his business is done. I thought you were a fan of boxing? Why should this bother YOU?
Oh so now the WBC is the devil for trying to make the fight the fans have wanted to see for years. The same WBC that Floyd has stated numerous times it's the only belt he gives a fukk about. WBC isn't dictating shyt because neither fighter HAS to do anything. All they are doing was trying to make the fight one step closer to being made. You being a fan of boxing and all should applaud this move. The alphabets have done horrible things over the years this is not one of them, captain save a Mayweather.
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@SkiHatDaGawd
@HARLEM AL
So the both of yall finally admit Floyd ducking Manny?
No f*** way, this is some crazy twilight zone shyt.
Nah, he's not ducking him, he's just being a jackass.
*cues Twilight Zone music*
Yep...you just can't take your L and keep it moving. I'm a fan of boxing and would love to see the fight happen. But to come up with fictitious ways of saying Floyd is ducking it isn't my bag. The WBC isn't trying to make the fight one step closer. These belts are trinkets and have been like that for years. They just positioned themselves to get the money windfall of the fight happening cause Manny won and the fight might be a reality. This is a selfish play by the WBC, nothing more. And for you to state that Floyd refusing to play by their rules and giving up the belt is subject to criticism, but then run with the "neither fighter has to do anything" narrative when forced to possibly defend Manny refusing a future fight with Abregu or justifying having Zab ahead of Paulie in the rankings, shows the amount of tap dancing you're willing to do be right. This is a business. These fighters make business decisions. It's been like that forever. I find it increasingly odd that since Floyd holds all the cards, he has to bend to everyone else's whim. Where were you when Pac dragged his nuts in the Hatton negotiations and pulled out over a few more $'s? Where were you when Floyd, obviously being the better fighter, took the less purse and the B-side of the Gatti fight? Now it's a crime when Floyd wants to dictate the site, date, and purse? $40 million is the most Pac would ever sniff! The only reason why it was turned down by Pac is because Arum would be cut out. By not offering no residual income means Top Rank wasn't gonna be able to eat off the fight. It's not different than when the promotional companies file the fighters purse guarantee with the boxing commission. That's theirs. They then pay their managers, etc from that money. Anything on the back end goes to your promotional company first. That's Arum's money and that's the money Floyd said ZERO on. A bird in a hand is worth more than two in a bush. Pac should've took the money and we wouldn't be having this convo now. But he's a worker, and the longer he allows himself to be a worker, it'll be hard to make this fight happen. You see how impossible it was for Floyd to get Oscar....but was easy as hell when Floyd left Arum? You see how impossible it was for the Cotto and Floyd fight to happen....but was easy as hell when Cotto left Arum. Smarten up.
breh all your longwinded posts are nothing more than floyd fandom and caping for him..nothing more nothing less..interesting boxing banter doesn't exist when stans care more about the business and the money of a boxer than who they fight
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
Fictitious? Floyd saying Manny can have the title and not fight him is a fact friend.
half of this post has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand and the other half is you admitting you are a fan of "business" and not boxing. Of course the WBC wants some of that $ if the fight gets made ITS THE BIGGEST FIGHT IN BOXING AND THE FANS WANT TO SEE IT.
This shyt is giving me a legit headache breh you don't have to type up a whole lot of nothing to get your point across........ You are allowing Floyd to give excuses for it not to be made. I was behind Floyd on the drug testing issues back in '10 but this is inexcusable. Manny has money problems at the moment and is willing to take an L on negotiations this fight can be made.
Why is it okay for the biggest fight of this generation to not be made because one fighter doesn't like a promoter? We the fans are the ones that have made these men millionaires. Manny fans want to see the fight happen and the rational Floyd fans want to see the fight happen.