“Logic, you’re easily one of the worst rappers to grace a microphone” - Joe Budden

[Shadow King]

Being a rapper is being an entertainer though. An artist is an entertainer and a rapper is a category of artist. If you're a rapper that's not really entertaining then you're basically a shytty rapper.

Logic is a lower tier level rapper because for the most part he's not entertaining. He comes across as some kid that grew up idolizing rappers and learned how to rhyme but doesn't have much to say and doesn't know how to entertain. That being said like I said in very small doses I like a few of his tracks. He's like the extreme version of what Jadakiss was. Jada could rap bars like crazy and even had the charisma but mostly put out mediocre albums. Same with Cassidy. Pac didn't have half of either of those guy's technical skills but put out albums that shyt on their entire career.

I don't know how many people were in the room when "Logic" was created but some of the best rappers have powerful executives and producers behind them that help them craft their persona and music. Logic comes across like he's competently self made. I really question is 6ix does anything more than just give Logic beats to rhyme over.

Thing is in the era we live in now a low tier rapper can move units. Artist today aren't like the ones from even the 00s and back to the 90s and shyt.

I will always give respect to a rapper who is technically sound and I don't value the business putting persona over skill so we're going to agree to disagree. But none of that makes with Joe said correct. This far worse and we all know that

 

[Stacks]

Shiiiiiiit this place really is Cac City with all of yall admitting you listen to a fukking white boy

Never crossed my mind ONCE to listen to a fukking Logic

 

[Shadow King]

Yea thats defintely his issue. Son raps a whole gang of black empowerment shyt to make himself sound cool yet ive literally never seen him with anyone black outside his mixed dad and brother that one time he trotted them out to justify his n word usage and he dont fw black women at all. Ive also seen real suspect tweets from him on race issues, and he is just a huge huge cornball. He doesnt realize that even if he is mixed he looks like a white dweeb and we can smell that hes never been in no hood ever but he still puts out songs like gang related, which i thought was cool but smh. breh giving mulattos everywhere a horrible name, drakes self awareness keeps him from suffering a similar fate even tho he can also be high fructose corn syrup

Joe is hating but the Coli is gonna eat this up cause of Logic's look/background/image.

Exhibit A

 

[winb83]

I will always give respect to a rapper who is technically sound and I don't value the business putting persona over skill so we're going to agree to disagree. But none of that makes with Joe said correct. This far worse and we all know that

Joe is exaggerating for clicks. Logic is mediocre but he's not the worst ever. I'm sorry but the combined final product an artist puts out is far more important than taking their lyric writing ability in a vacuum and just analyzing that alone.

Rick Ross is nowhere near the lyric writer Logic is but I'd rather listen to him than Logic any day of the week.

 

[Mindfield333]

Joe is exaggerating for clicks. Logic is mediocre but he's not the worst ever. I'm sorry but the combined final product an artist puts out is far more important than taking their lyric writing ability in a vacuum and just analyzing that alone.

Rick Ross is nowhere near the lyric writer Logic is but I'd rather listen to him than Logic any day of the week.

Whoa there

 

[Cadillac]

Joe is exaggerating for clicks. Logic is mediocre but he's not the worst ever. I'm sorry but the combined final product an artist puts out is far more important than taking their lyric writing ability in a vacuum and just analyzing that alone.

Rick Ross is nowhere near the lyric writer Logic is but I'd rather listen to him than Logic any day of the week.

Why do I have a feeling your overating his lyricism simply because he raps fast

 

[Rice N Beans]

Nah dude ain’t good. He’s a rappity rap dude who don’t be saying shyt

Better than these 4 syllable a line mumble rappers who don't say shyt or can be skilled at it.

 

[Shadow King]

Joe is exaggerating for clicks. Logic is mediocre but he's not the worst ever. I'm sorry but the combined final product an artist puts out is far more important than taking their lyric writing ability in a vacuum and just analyzing that alone.

Rick Ross is nowhere near the lyric writer Logic is but I'd rather listen to him than Logic any day of the week.

So you treat rap like wrestling?

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Whoa there

Logic ain't never wrote some shyt like gucci flip flops

Just cause Ross and people like Jeezy dont do rappity rap shyt doesnt mean they're worse writers

They do more with less

 

[Cuban Pete]

Exhibit A

That nikka honestly sucks man and Ive given him at least 3 separate chances cuz im into the whole hip hop wordplay scene but nah. Alot of people do that semi conscious everyman style way better, with more depth, harder lyrics and less corn. You telling me logic is fukking with kendrick, cole, krit, isaiah rashad, mick jenkins, cozz, saba etc.? Bro Russ is > then some damn Logic.

 

[ADP]

Joe even says on the podcast that he likes to stir up shyt just "to pod".

Not even his dudes seem to be close to agreeing with him.

Maybe wackest ever to reach a certain level of succes but even then not sure if it would be warrented

Get ya money though Buddens, you seem to be living an expensive lifestyle

 

[winb83]

So you treat rap like wrestling?

No I just don't take technical lyricism and put it in a vacuum and act like that's the most important aspect of music. The combined final product from the beat to the flow to the lyricism matters.

Logic ain't never weore some ahit like gucci flip flops

Just cause Ross and people like Jeezy dont do rappity rap shyt doesnt mean they're worse writers

They do more with less

You and I are basically saying the same thing in different ways. The end product is more important than any single ingredient that contributes to it. People like Ross and Jeezy aren't lyrical wordsmiths but their final product is good. As an artist it's more important that your finished product is interesting than a listener hearing your complex multisyllabic rhymes.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

No I just don't take technical lyricism and put it in a vacuum and act like that's the most important aspect of music. The combined final product from the beat to the flow to the lyricism matters.

You and I are basically saying the same thing in different ways. The end product is more important than any single ingredient that contributes to it. People like Ross and Jeezy aren't lyrical wordsmiths but their final product is good. As an artist it's more important that your finished product is interesting than a listener hearing your complex multisyllabic rhymes.

Nah we not
Logic is incapable of writing some shyt like that because he ain't got the soul for it

 

[Cadillac]

Better than these 4 syllable a line mumble rappers who don't say shyt or can be skilled at it.

Being a multi syllable rapper isn't that skillful, alot of people can do that.

 

[winb83]

Nah we not
Logic is incapable of writing some shyt like that because he ain't got the soul for it

Logic's rhymes are more technically complex than Ross or Jeezy. Their music is better than his. The end.