list of good GOP ideas since Eisenhower

[zerozero]

so now republicans were responsible for the Vietnam War?

this cant be life

The people who supported it steadfastly and used it as a wedge issue were the GOP, Nixonites etc. The Dems coalition split apart over it.

 

[Trip]

sensationalism? the right's beef with the federal government and judicial activism has to do with actual fed/court policies from the 60s onwards, and their beef with the welfare state from the 40s onwards. "Small government" is not actually about small government it's about specific policies. When it comes to spending, a lot of times when they say move X to the states it's just a plan to end X.

Local governance isn't ideological in reality. Hell, Ralph Nader is for "small government".

has more to do with spending on things we dont need

 

[zerozero]

They weren't wrong on all of these things, they just had selective amnnesia, purpseful hypocrisy and went against stuff for the sake of the party. So I guess the response may have been wrong but many of them knew better, and then they got told to shut up.

You can't pin tough on crime and war on drugs strategies just on them either.

True I was being hyperbolic a bit

But especially if you look at which coalition housed the other side of the issue it was more likely to be Dems, especially post Nixon

 

[zerozero]

has more to do with spending on things we dont need

that's their rhetoric. look at what they actually do. republicans balloon the deficit each time they're in power

 

[Shogun]

The people who supported it steadfastly and used it as a wedge issue were the GOP, Nixonites etc. The Dems coalition split apart over it.

Kennedy's shift from Eisenhower's brinksmanship to his own "flexible response" strategy had nothing to do with it? Or Johnson's escalation? interesting..

Also, if i remeber correctly the 88th United States Congress which passedf the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964 was held by a Democratic majority.

 

[zerozero]

Kennedy's shift from Eisenhower's brinksmanship to his own "flexible response" strategy had nothing to do with it? Or Johnson's escalation? interesting..

Also, if i remeber correctly the 88th United States Congress which passedf the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964 was held by a Democratic majority.

Okay you're right. Kennedy's cold warring ass truly fukked things up on some foreign policy fronts, and LBJ did escalate it

but as it wound down, what side was receptive to the people who were against it? The anti-war response was from the left, not from the GOP

and later the GOP certainly stood in retroactive support of it and continued to engage in dumb cold war interventions long after the Dems had stopped pushing for them

 

[Street Knowledge]

Alot of their rhetoric seems great on paper. I'm not gonna lie