Lincoln is the worst movie i have ever seen

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i don't even wanna see it no more. when i saw the pics of ddl on set i was like ":ohhh: this gon be the shyt" but when the previews dropped... and that bytch ass bob dylan accent.... :scusthov: :why: it literally ruined my appeal for the movie. i aint sittin thru 2.5 hours of that shyt :pacspit:
 

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Watch this you might appreciate Lincoln more :lolbron:

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Lmaoooooo Ice Cubes characters name in this peice of shyt is "Desolation Williams" hahahahahahah
 

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OP is right. Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter was better then Lincoln.
 

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he was an ethnocentric but not a racist. he didn't harbor any outright hatred towards blacks. in fact he felt they should be treated like just a good as white people. however he still felt whites shouldn't intermarry with them and thought it would be better they whites and black lived separately. he still felt his own race was preferable but he made it clear in many speech that blacks are born equal to any other man. His views softened towards blacks a bit toward the end of his life too so it would be accurate to show him having sympathy towards the plight of black folk.

as i say actions speak louder than words. the emancipation proclamation may have been a shady political maneuver use by him to help win the war but the thirteenth amendment was unnecessary unless he felt morally obligated to do so.:usure:

alotta people confuse ethnocentrism with racism.
i would define racism as an ignorant desire to tear down another group of people based on perceived characteristics
ethnocentrism is more of a logical desire to encourage to advancement of your own race before other races. which is fine unless taken to extremes levels where it might turn into a feeling of supremacy.
it seems like you are actually conflating ethnicity and race as well. the definition you describe is racism in practice, the "logical desire to encourage advancement of your own race before other races" is a racist policy. that's literally what hitler did. if you believe humans can be biologically divided by race, then you are a racist. if you think you should then prefer the advancement of a particular race above others, then you prefer racist policies.
 

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First 10 minutes and last 10 minutes are Spielberg at his annoyingly cornball worst.....


...but the middle 1:45 or so is pretty great imo.
 

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he was an ethnocentric but not a racist. he didn't harbor any outright hatred towards blacks. in fact he felt they should be treated like just a good as white people. however he still felt whites shouldn't intermarry with them and thought it would be better they whites and black lived separately. he still felt his own race was preferable but he made it clear in many speech that blacks are born equal to any other man. His views softened towards blacks a bit toward the end of his life too so it would be accurate to show him having sympathy towards the plight of black folk.

as i say actions speak louder than words. the emancipation proclamation may have been a shady political maneuver use by him to help win the war but the thirteenth amendment was unnecessary unless he felt morally obligated to do so.:usure:

alotta people confuse ethnocentrism with racism.
i would define racism as an ignorant desire to tear down another group of people based on perceived characteristics
ethnocentrism is more of a logical desire to encourage to advancement of your own race before other races. which is fine unless taken to extremes levels where it might turn into a feeling of supremacy.

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“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:

Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

Brown folk: :dwillhuh:
White folk: "No no that's not racism, that's ethnocentrism" :smugfavre::skip:
 

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Lincoln was a liberal/black sympathizer back then compared to the rest of whites who were out there hanging black people in the middle of the street while smiling and taking pictures...


but if he was alive today he'd be considered David Duke status
 

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Brown folk: :dwillhuh:
White folk: "No no that's not racism, that's ethnocentrism" :smugfavre::skip:

people always use that same quote. even though there are several other incidents where he stood up for the rights of black people. The quote doesn't even saying anything outright hateful towards blacks in any case he was mostly trying to distant himself abolitionists. an action he later recanted
 
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