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how many excuses are you gonna make?

so essentially you are saying that black people of detroit cannot make it without white people
lol, no. I'm saying brainwashing isn't easily wiped away... and black people would be better off w/o white state officials and businessmen being able to act out agendas very easily because of economic backing. Black people in Detroit are forced to make slow progress..
im for individual rights, i think a citizen should be able to go to any school or any neighbor hood they want,

but im not for or against integration, i just dont think an integration plan is an economic plan, that is my point
Do you feel like separation would serve us better??
and i have a problem with people describing large concentrated black populations in a negative way as if there is something wrong with that by definition or as if its a problem that needs to be solved

i could give a fuk about the religious affiliation of any black leaders, i dont believe in religion
just saying, some of those leaders-- u call c00ns because they practice a religion.. are some of those same people who were very positive for our community.
i think that is where your train goes off the tracks, every black person, unless you are retarded, is an intelligent individual and every person is responsible for their own actions

people that are destroying the black community, endangering black children, committing crimes against black people should be held responsible for their own actions, that is the foundation of a prosperous community
People aren't help responsible in communities that have fukked up mentalities... and people aren't born w fukked up mentalities... obviously there are forces at play if an entire community has to deal with mental barriers that other communities don't have to deal with. I agree that everyone is responsible for their own actions.
so let me get this straight, you are worried about black people being divided so that is why you attack black people like delores tucker? and you attack black people that disagree with you? and that is your plan for black unity? :heh: ok then
I don't attack Tucker because her viewpoint is different than mine. Bill Cosby has a different pov than my own, and I don't attack him. I don't like Tucker because she attacked more than educated. Someone like Tupac (if not shot) could have been positive for some parts of our communities. You need messages that come from different backgrounds and angles to spread similar messages effectively. I'm not gonna tell a nikka my age with no advanced degree that he can come do what I do, but I will tell him a better way to spin whatever he is doing.. and he may listen because I'm not judgmental about his current perceived options.
i know i dont have to accept anything, that is my whole point

you just gave a long speech about im a sellout because me and delores tucker dont sufficiently identify with the "street nikkas" and trying to tell me that "making it rain" was an integral part of black culture

i already know i dont have to accept it and i reject your attempt to bamboozle me about what black culture is
You're not a sellout if you can't identify with certain segments of your community. Your a sell out if you don't understand, are detached, are overly judgmental, and would love for those people to disappear. I mean, it's not like I'm out here running the streets, I dress up daily and talk w Indians and CAC about random shyt. But I'm not detached. I'm not gonna look at something on TV and feel like some white guy created some shyt that I literally saw nikkas do 10 years ago. I don't accept corporate culture.. I just realize that that is what the enemy does and always will do. My entire point is you can't change the nature of CACs. Even before rap, every single thing about black culture was repackaged and mocked. I'm not powerful enough to affect that shyt... but we can change our culture eternally.. We can't do that with division.
commercialized images are in our control, delores tucker made an attempt and she failed because we in the rap community decided that we knew better, in essence black people in rap acquiesced to corporate control of rap music
She was ignorant of American history and ignorant about social-economic stimulants. Ignorant about rap, ignorant about urban culture.. she was also ignorant about how to effectively prompt social change (obviously). The only thing she did successfully was marginalized certain groups of blacks.. and create organizations to kill black babies.
 

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lol, no. I'm saying brainwashing isn't easily wiped away... and black people would be better off w/o white state officials and businessmen being able to act out agendas very easily because of economic backing. Black people in Detroit are forced to make slow progress..

yeah, so bottom line in your view black people in detroit cannot succeed without white people

its like you are avoiding the inevitable conclusion of your own statements

Do you feel like separation would serve us better??

i dont think it matters, black people can succed either way but we have to fix the fundamentals which are culture

just saying, some of those leaders-- u call c00ns because they practice a religion.. are some of those same people who were very positive for our community.

i dont care what religion anybody is, religion is a personal issue, it should be completely separate from race and government

but in terms of history, islam is an arab religion that engaged in the enslavement and genocide of black people

and christianity is a european religion that engaged in the enslavement and genocid of black people

if somebody tries to obfuscate those facts i find it suspicious but mostly a lot of people are unaware of those facts so i try to enlighten people about it

and i think you are putting words in my mouth, i dont call anybody c00n, ******, nikka or cac

People aren't help responsible in communities that have fukked up mentalities... and people aren't born w fukked up mentalities... obviously there are forces at play if an entire community has to deal with mental barriers that other communities don't have to deal with. I agree that everyone is responsible for their own actions.

yeah all im saying is that its something that black people have to fix ourselves

I don't attack Tucker because her viewpoint is different than mine. Bill Cosby has a different pov than my own, and I don't attack him. I don't like Tucker because she attacked more than educated. Someone like Tupac (if not shot) could have been positive for some parts of our communities. You need messages that come from different backgrounds and angles to spread similar messages effectively. I'm not gonna tell a nikka my age with no advanced degree that he can come do what I do, but I will tell him a better way to spin whatever he is doing.. and he may listen because I'm not judgmental about his current perceived options.
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sure i think tucker was an awful messenger, all im saying is that she was right and tupac was wrong, i think tupac ended up misguiding a lot of black people about what it meant to be black man, like rap music itself he had a spark when he started but he went off the rails and over the cliff in the end

i think we have to backtrack and see where we went wrong and i think were we went wrong is when we dismissed what delores tucker had to say and started listening to white people that wanted to exploit black culture and we confused the notion that we have freedom to say whatever we wanted to say with the notion that it doesnt matter what we say, but that is not true, it does matter what we say and rap music does have to be positive

You're not a sellout if you can't identify with certain segments of your community. Your a sell out if you don't understand, are detached, are overly judgmental, and would love for those people to disappear. I mean, it's not like I'm out here running the streets, I dress up daily and talk w Indians and CAC about random shyt. But I'm not detached. I'm not gonna look at something on TV and feel like some white guy created some shyt that I literally saw nikkas do 10 years ago. I don't accept corporate culture.. I just realize that that is what the enemy does and always will do. My entire point is you can't change the nature of CACs. Even before rap, every single thing about black culture was repackaged and mocked. I'm not powerful enough to affect that shyt... but we can change our culture eternally.. We can't do that with division.

im not really sure what any of this means, but like i said, i dont run away from the word elitist, i do believe in compromise but at the end of the day shyt has to be called out for what it is and we may have to separate ourselves from some people that dont want to get on the train

if people in detroit where making it rain 10 years ago, then it has to be said that its stupid and an example of financial illiteracy, how you gonna be in a black enclave surrounded by racist whites and you are using the little money you have to "making it rain", that's just stupid, and if its a part of the culture its a part of the culture that has to change

and being a a "street nikka" has to be called out for what it really is, its people that are endangering black children, terrorizing and committing crimes against black people and stopping the progress of black people overall

if calling stuff out makes me an elitist then so be it

She was ignorant of American history and ignorant about social-economic stimulants. Ignorant about rap, ignorant about urban culture.. she was also ignorant about how to effectively prompt social change (obviously). The only thing she did successfully was marginalized certain groups of blacks.. and create organizations to kill black babies.

as flawed as she was in the end what she said was correct, rap music has to be positive or else its bullshyt and should be thrown in the bushes
 

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yeah, so bottom line in your view black people in detroit cannot succeed without white people

its like you are avoiding the inevitable conclusion of your own statements
:what:You're having tunnel vision on this.

i dont think it matters, black people can succed either way but we have to fix the fundamentals which are culture
and we start w the mind.. and acknowledging where that brainwashing came from.
i dont care what religion anybody is, religion is a personal issue, it should be completely separate from race and government

but in terms of history, islam is an arab religion that engaged in the enslavement and genocide of black people

and christianity is a european religion that engaged in the enslavement and genocid of black people

if somebody tries to obfuscate those facts i find it suspicious but mostly a lot of people are unaware of those facts so i try to enlighten people about it

and i think you are putting words in my mouth, i dont call anybody c00n, ******, nikka or cac
You imply sellout, c00n, or whatever verbiage on the bases of religion- particularly Islam because you hate it.
yeah all im saying is that its something that black people have to fix ourselves
agreed.
sure i think tucker was an awful messenger, all im saying is that she was right and tupac was wrong, i think tupac ended up misguiding a lot of black people about what it meant to be black man, like rap music itself he had a spark when he started but he went off the rails and over the cliff in the end

i think we have to backtrack and see where we went wrong and i think were we went wrong is when we dismissed what delores tucker had to say and started listening to white people that wanted to exploit black culture and we confused the notion that we have freedom to say whatever we wanted to say with the notion that it doesnt matter what we say, but that is not true, it does matter what we say and rap music does have to be positive
rap has been, and can be positive.
im not really sure what any of this means, but like i said, i dont run away from the word elitist, i do believe in compromise but at the end of the day shyt has to be called out for what it is and we may have to separate ourselves from some people that don't want to get on the train
ok.
if people in detroit where making it rain 10 years ago, then it has to be said that its stupid and an example of financial illiteracy, how you gonna be in a black enclave surrounded by racist whites and you are using the little money you have to "making it rain", that's just stupid, and if its a part of the culture its a part of the culture that has to change

and being a a "street nikka" has to be called out for what it really is, its people that are endangering black children, terrorizing and committing crimes against black people and stopping the progress of black people overall

if calling stuff out makes me an elitist then so be it
calling stuff out doesn't make you an elitist... none elitist call shyt out everyday. Those so called "street nikkas" are all the thing you mentioned... but I'm not naive enough to believe they aren't pawns in a larger game.

And I'm pretty sure the majority of young guys who make it rain are ignorant and are having fun... they aren't necessarily concerned with the fincial state of a community that is crumbling right before their eyes .

as flawed as she was in the end what she said was correct, rap music has to be positive or else its bullshyt and should be thrown in the bushes
:what:Gottdamn you need to hear this.
[ame=http://youtu.be/jFpONcXnPKw]Immortal Technique - The Poverty of Philosophy (Prod by Southpaw) (Lyrics) - YouTube[/ame]
 

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Rap music SMH

EXCLUSIVE: Rapper faces 10 years to life after hiring video crew to film drug deal - NY Daily News

Garrett’s lawyer James Lisa said his client’s posturing on videotapes is part of his persona, adding ‘If he’s a drug dealer, I’m a kangaroo, because he doesn’t even have enough money to pay me.’
Garrett’s reaction to the bust is documented by an image of him gathering up “piles of cash” and speaking to a lawyer on the phone to determine if he is “sure nobody is talking on nobody,” according to the papers.

how can any black person take rap music seriously anymore, it's a joke
 

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Rap music SMH

EXCLUSIVE: Rapper faces 10 years to life after hiring video crew to film drug deal - NY Daily News



how can any black person take rap music seriously anymore, it's a joke
:rudy:
[ame=http://youtu.be/jFpONcXnPKw]Immortal Technique - The Poverty of Philosophy (Prod by Southpaw) (Lyrics) - YouTube[/ame]

also,

Is Hip Hop Destroying Black America? | RapRehab
The challenges facing Black America are much bigger than Hip Hop. But for what it’s worth, when untainted by outside influences and corporate vultures, Hip Hop in its purest form is about empowerment, unity, culture, creativity and hope..
 

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:what:You're having tunnel vision on this.

if you analyze your own words ultimately what they mean is that black people cannot succeed without white people

and we start w the mind.. and acknowledging where that brainwashing came from.

you can start wherever you want to start but in the end the future of black people is determined by black people, its not determined by what white people do

You imply sellout, c00n, or whatever verbiage on the bases of religion- particularly Islam because you hate it.

i think islam is the worst religion on the planet, its worse than christianity, and i imply that people that follow it are misguided and delusional

rap has been, and can be positive.

overall in 2013 and the past few years it isnt positive

calling stuff out doesn't make you an elitist... none elitist call shyt out everyday. Those so called "street nikkas" are all the thing you mentioned... but I'm not naive enough to believe they aren't pawns in a larger game.

everybody is a pawn in a larger game, welcome to human civilization


And I'm pretty sure the majority of young guys who make it rain are ignorant and are having fun... they aren't necessarily concerned with the fincial state of a community that is crumbling right before their eyes .

i know they arent concerned with the financial state, that is my point, but you said that it was their cutlure im just pointing out the failure of detroit isnt just about racism its also black people's fault

Gottdamn you need to hear this.

i dont get it, what is that suppose to prove?
 

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what is this suppose to show

Is Hip Hop Destroying Black America? | RapRehab
The challenges facing Black America are much bigger than Hip Hop. But for what it’s worth, when untainted by outside influences and corporate vultures, Hip Hop in its purest form is about empowerment, unity, culture, creativity and hope..

:heh: why are you posting that, that website is saying exactly what ive been saying, you called me an elitist for t saying the same thing, in fact i already posted that article right here http://www.the-coli.com/booth/98483-hip-hop-bad-black-america.html#.UcihijtwpxU

the dude that runs the site rap rehab is the dude that got lil wayne and odd futures' mountain dew deals killed

 
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what is this suppose to show
:dwillhuh: WHY are u gonna make me explain this and write it out?

1) You want to throw most black people to the wolves... when in reality "Most of my Latino and black people who are struggling to get food, clothes and shelter in the hood are so concerned with that, that philosophizing about freedom and socialist democracy is usually unfortunately beyond their rationale"

2) You say shyt like "you can start where you want". I say ur retarded and the brainwashing is the first thing we need to start with .... hence " They don't realize that America can't exist without separating them from their identity, because if we had some sense of who we really are, there's no way in hell we'd allow this country to push it's genocidal consensus on our homelands. This ignorance exists, but it can be destroyed."

3) You spin every point I make to mean some other shyt to fit into something that your brain can first comprehend and second ridicule..... "I'm quite sure that people will look upon my attitude and sentiments and look for hypocrisy and hatred in my words."

4) Maybe we agree with this point.. I'm not sure, u sorta go back and forth.. "They're always gonna look at you as nothing but a little monkey"

5) You talk about our culture.. you don't realize that nothing is wrong with the culture expect how desperate situations influence parts of our culture. The same dude that is motivated to sell drug by rap, can be the same dude who listens to Jezzy while writing his Thesis.. The circumstances are to blame.. and that kid didn't create the circumstances.. " I'd rather be proud of what I am, rather than desperately trying to be something I'm really not, just to fit in. And whether we want to accept it or not, that's what this culture or lack of culture is feeding us."

6) My other point.. and why people think the pov is racist when it really isn't racist... "My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-fukkers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shyt about the way things are set up."

7) You a conforming black elitist at heart.. I'm a black revolutionary at heart... "In other words, I don't want to escape the plantation I want to come back, free all my people, hang the Mother-fukker that kept me there and burn the house to the god damn ground. I want to take over the encomienda and give it back to the people who work the land."

8) This is how I feel.. I feel this way even about the wealthy people in my own family.. You on the other hand hype of the D. Tuckers and pretend that the situation for blacks isn't what it is.. "You cannot change the past but you can make the future, and anyone who tells you different is a fukking lethargic devil. I don't look at a few token Latinos and black people in the public eye as some type of achievement for my people as a whole. Most of those successful individuals are sell-outs and house Negros."

9) And like I said.. I don't call sellout or c00n or talk shyt just because someone disagrees w my view like D. Tucker. I simply don't like the people who are so ignorant or narrow sighted about our circumstance that they are just a waste of breath and really can do nothing to help the masses of us... Most of us have untapped potential and we don't extract that potential through divisions and criticisms. "But, I don't consider brothers a sell-out if they move out of the ghetto. Poverty has nothing to do with our people. It's not in our culture to be poor. That's only been the last 500 years of our history; look at the last 2000 years of our existence and what we brought to the world in terms of science, mathematics, agriculture and forms of government"

:heh: why are you posting that, that website is saying exactly what ive been saying, you called me an elitist for t saying the same thing, in fact i already posted that article right here http://www.the-coli.com/booth/98483-hip-hop-bad-black-america.html#.UcihijtwpxU

the dude that runs the site rap rehab is the dude that got lil wayne and odd futures' mountain dew deals killed

Meet the man who Helped End the Mountain Dew Racist Ad after Reading Dr. Watkins' article - YouTube
except that you mostly blame the pawns of rap.. and you blast rap itself- and truthfully the attack should stay focused on the enemy and the industry.
 

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yeah, you can use other people as examples of what not to do

stop it. the schtick is old.

chastising someone is completely different than showing them an example.

and dude thought they were black, so he rushed in here to talk down about "black" parenting.

proof positive that yall just like to sit around and talk chit.
 
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