Life After "Life After Death". What Biggie had planned for the future.....

[C-Styles]

Thank You.....people love to nitpick things that are irrelevant. Legendary Artist get countless Documentaries. This Documentary was much more personal, showed people in Biggie's family you've never seen or heard of. It also felt like He was telling the story ala "Tupac Resurrection" in parts. I really liked it. Also Yes I would love more documentaries on people like Big L or Pun, Eazy E etc but the reality is it's up to the Families, label or business partners of those estates to manage their Legacies. Why are people shocked Biggie's estate is on point with keeping his legacy going? That's what an Estate does. Especially one generating the money Biggie's does. Before Afeni Died, she released Several Double Pac Albums and Documentaries and was working on the Bio-Pic the year she died. Afeni did the same thing, keep Pac's Legacy going. More people will see this documentary as you said just because it's on Netflix. But yes you will learn something new from this documentary because it focuses more on his upbringing. People have to remember the Man died at 24.

Pop Smoke who died last year was only 20 so he was born 2 years after Biggie died. (Pop Smoke Estate just got going with a huge posthumous album and he has a movie coming out. Again this is what an estate does). Tons of young kids today are like that and missed out on the other Documentaries. Perfect Example, I had a young cousin of mines visit me last week. He's 26 years old, born in 95. He never saw "The Show" documentary and we watched it. He was memorized. "The Show" has been available for over 25 years but he didn't see it. Just cause those older Big Docs were out doesn't mean the Youth watched them like us.....who were there at the time and watched everything. They will learn from this Documentary. This year on March 9 it will be 24 years since Biggie Died. We've been without Biggie for the exact same time he's was on this Earth. This is what a Timeless Artist is. But I liked it, Like that the interviews were from all people close to Biggie instead of the normal "Rapper/Artist" interviews. Also didn't focus to much on the Beef but more Pac and Big's relationship. It truly was an origin story documentary were as the other docs didn't touch on his childhood as deeply went right to the other stuff. Check out the international Japanese Poster, dope.

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you can't make anyone happy on this board and you're right. There's today's generation that have never seen the documentaries that we've watched and i'm all for keeping the legacy alive! My 14 year old step son learns from all of this, he's been interested in 90's hip hop since he was 10 and this kid has grown an appreciation for it thanks to documentaries like these. It's like older cats like us get mad if the kids don't know who certain rappers are, yet get mad as well when documentaries come out of said rapper so the youth can learn. Sh*t doesn't make any sense

 

[DaHNIC82]

Upping this classic

 

[Rapmastermind]

25 Years Later. It's Unbelievable but here we are. Music still has stood the test of time. Samples are still happening. Lyrics are still being used, sample or bitten. (Artist continue to Honor Big through Songs, Lyrics and Remakes) The Legacy is still intact. Songs are being remade. Movies and Television shows are being done. Streets named after him. Murals all over. He was inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. If there's a Hip Hop Version he will be in that one too. I'm sure Grammy Hall of Fame is next in line. "Ready To Die" 6x Platinum remains one of the highest selling Rap Debuts of All Time. "Life After Death" 11x Platinum Diamond as it stands is the Highest Certified Solo Rap Album of All Time 25 years after it's release. Both Posthumous albums went Multi-Platinum and his Greatest Hits sold as well. All of his main singles are all Certified Platinum or Gold. His whole Crew all sold records. Pretty good for "Just Two Albums". Not to mentioned helping the careers of Lil' Kim, Cease, Junior Mafia and his Bad Boy Label mates. And indirectly helping a ton of East Coast acts with his success as well. Hip Hop has evolved in 25 years but Big's legacy and Impact is still very much in the soul of the genre. Much of everything musically is out there. There's also been several documentaries. There's some vault outtakes so there still some lost verses unreleased but I'd say 90% of everything is out there in some form. I'll leave the other 10% to Puffy, his estate, DJ/Producers who have stuff etc.

I definitely think more compilations can be done. Like a "Biggie Live" type of album. He sounded good live. I know he had the live joint on "The Show" Soundtrack but a full Live album would be nice. Another Greatest Hits can happen but this time it could be his collaborations. Disc 1 could be R&B side and Disc 2 could be the rap side. Another "Duets/Remix" album can happen with younger rappers possibly. I saw the "Life After Death" Anniversary Vinyl set is about to released. Can't wait to cop that. It's just wild to think it's been 25 years. It's been a long way but I knew even back then we were witnessing history. Also Biggie is going to be a Grandfather soon. His daughter is Pregnant. His Son is also doing some business ventures and acting. I could definitely see Big here today in the future with his Label empire, going to NBA Games (But he would have eventually won chips on Shaq as he won 4 Titles after Big's death, lol). Definitely in movies etc. having business ventures. Everything we are seeing Jay, Puff do etc, Big would of been right here with them. The only thing is I don't see him releasing a lot of albums. I could see Big taking 2-3 year gaps between all his albums and just working on his artist and making sure their albums were on point. He really had a nice plan mapped out with Lil Kim, Cease and eventually with Cam and Charli B-More. Anyways Big never left the rotation so listening to him this Anniversary won't be an issue. This is also the 30th Anniversary since Big's early Verses in 92 as well. Rest in Glory. 25 Years to Infinity.

(Biggie's Daughter Tyanna is expecting his 1st child, a Daughter soon)

(CJ was only 4 Months Old at the time of Big's passing. He's all grown up now and is 25 during this Anniversary)

The Notorious B.I.G.'s Son C.J. Wallace Talks His 'Global Legacy' on the 25th Anniversary of Rapper's Death

 

[Take It In Blood]

jay z biggie smallz make ya sh1t ya drawls

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

 

[Knicksman20]

@FreshAIG @I love Latina women @Rapmastermind @3rdWorld

 

[I love Latina women]

@FreshAIG @I love Latina women @Rapmastermind @3rdWorld

I want to hear them Easy Mo Bee tracks

 

[Mike Wins]

I want to hear them Easy Mo Bee tracks

We for sure heard two of the three, I Love The Dough and Going Back To Cali.

Verses for the other one probably ended up on Born Again or Duets

 

[bl2k8]

We for sure heard two of the three, I Love The Dough and Going Back To Cali.

Verses for the other one probably ended up on Born Again or Duets

makes me wonder if there are any biggie verses left from 97 we never heard or did we hear them all on the duets/ born again albums

 

[C-Styles]

so i guess Fat Joe wasn't capping like we all thought

I'm guessing the "Spanish fly" joint is the one that Rob ended up doing with J.Lo and if you hear the first verse, it has Big's cadence

 

[JustCKing]

so i guess Fat Joe wasn't capping like we all thought

I'm guessing the "Spanish fly" joint is the one that Rob ended up doing with J.Lo and if you hear the first verse, it has Big's cadence

What's crazy is if the song had J. Lo on it when Biggie recorded it. This was before she even had a solo music career. She was primarily known for being a Fly Girl on In Living Color, the movie Money Train, and playing Selena in the biopic.

 

[Rapmastermind]

This will be breaking news for the social media era but this list was leaked decades ago back in early 2000's on the Biggie boards back in the day. Yes Big does have songs in the vault. But most of everything is out there. I guess it's up to Puff and Big's Children now with Voletta passing. I don't know if it will be enough for an album. The Fat Joe record is true (He said it was album which was doubtful at that point but yes there was a song). "Spanish Fly" beat was given to Black Rob after Big passed. But we still wanted to hear his voice over that beat. Again I think some of the titles were renamed like "Someone Else's Guy" was clearly "Another". We speculated "Would You Die For Me" from "Born Again" felt like a "LAD" possible outtake or something he recorded during the Junior Maifa era.

There was a unreleased 3rd Verse to "Somebody's Got To Die" that leaked years ago. Havoc's original "Last Day" Beat leaked as well. "I Still Can't Let You" is obviously "Last Day". But yes we were aware it was supposed to be more than 24 tracks but it was clearly shorted which probably was a good thing anyway. Made the album much more cohesive. The crazy thing was "Born Again" and "Duets" were mostly older outtakes. As for where to go now, I definitely think they could do a Biggie "Live" Album with so many of his live performances. I wouldn't rule out a modern day tribute album with new rappers spitting over Big samples.

Who knows but his catalog is still generating heavy and he has a lot of listeners on streaming including Youtube and Spotify. Biggie is still being constantly sampled. The #5 song in the Country right now "TV Off" has Biggie lyrics. They already trying to get 25% of the catalog for 100 M's so that shows you the value (That 25% is clearly worth way more that so I don't know about that deal). "Stayin Alive'" probably had the Bee Gee's sample knowing how Bad Boy operates but Wyclef ended up using that sample the year Biggie died. I was always curious in the "Mo Bee III", "Clark II" and "RZA II". We all speculated the beats were maybe given to other artist back then. But yes the original titled was "LIfe After Death....Till Death Do Us Part". But changed after Pac died Just like Puffy changed "Hell up in Harlem" to "No Way Out" after Big died.

 

[C-Styles]

here's my thing, if those songs we're in the vault, why didn't puff put them on "Born again" instead of using some recycle verses ?? "Would you die for me" was def the only LAD outtake on the album because of Prince not wanting to clear the sample for the album

 

[the cac mamba]

If Big ended up doing a triple cd there’s no question he would have expanded on the vastness of LAD.

a triple would have been some bullshyt. no one has ever even made a double without skips

hell, i think i would cut down every single of the doubles to just one single cd classic. except blueprint 2

 

[Rapmastermind]

here's my thing, if those songs we're in the vault, why didn't puff put them on "Born again" instead of using some recycle verses ?? "Would you die for me" was def the only LAD outtake on the album because of Prince not wanting to clear the sample for the album

Again I honestly feel "Would You Die For Me" was a more recent verse he did because the flow had a bounce like "Nasty Boy". I with you though, more of the LAD Outtakes should have been on "Born Again". But they focused more on his underground stuff. "Dead Wrong" only used two verses and they took the 3rd Verse and put it on "Hope You N@ggas Sleep" with Cash Money. "Dangerous MC's" was a current verse recorded in 96 with J Dilla so there were more current verses on "Born Again". "Come On" was a Lord Finesse outtake from "RTD" they remixed. They took a Uncle Luke feature and remixed it with Too Short. "Rap Phenomenon" was a Premo Remix of the Tracy Lee Record but that was a current verse technically.

"Tonight" was just a "Long Kiss Goodnight" Remix with Mobb Deep. "Let Me Get Down" and "Can I Get Wit Ya" original records leaked so those were older outtakes. "Duets" basically did the same thing as "Born Again" but there weren't any newer outtakes used on that too. Again I don't think there is much in the vault, I would love to be wrong because every artist has a "Vault" of songs fans just don't have access too. But stuff has leaked out slowly Statik Selektah remixed the "Somebody Got To Die" outtake verse after Rob Holiday originally remixed it over the "Ohhh" Beat. Mo Bee did confirm he did more beats for the album years ago so "Mo Bee III" is definitely true. Clark Kent was always sending Big beats and even held "Sky's The Limit" for him for 2 years so "Clark II" is definitely true. "RZA II" was always one I wanted conformation on. Faith released some Junior Mafia Big References on her "King & I" album.

"Somebody Got To Die 3rd Verse Outtake"



DJ Rob Holladay "Ohh" Remix



b*stard Child - Produced by Statik Selektah