Liberal elites are Donald Trump's greatest allies

[AnonymityX1000]

"They"

65,844,610; 48.2%
62,979,636; 46.1%

Obama knew getting the most votes isn't the name of this game. Know the terrain you are competing on.

 

[joeychizzle]

I was gonna ask for some cliff notes.. but after reading the bytchfight on the first page.. never mind.

 

[re'up]

I'd love to see Kamala Harris in 2020, I don't think it's realistic at all, but she, one day, hopefully will make a great candidate.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Why not leave the Democratic party and start the political revolution y'all have always wanted?

I agree with this. Reading how detached all these bullshyt artist liberals are, there's no reason for anyone who's not an MSNBC watcher to have anything to do with these people.

Let them drown.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This thread shows why the team "elites" is kind of meaningless though.


Who are the "liberals"? The Democratic party? The far-left? Anyone in the universities? Peace activists, poverty advocates, globalists, union heads, feminists, which is it?

Who are the "elites"? The establishment? The wealthy? The academia? The intellectuals? The ones with real power?


I feel like the the OP would have been clearer and on firmer ground if the rant had been against the "liberal establishment" or the "neoliberal establishment" of the "Democratic party".

There have been plenty on the far-left, or in academia, or among the intellectuals, who have been protesting the very things the OP complains about, but a lot of people refer to those same contrarians as the "elite". There are plenty of people who are hardcore anti-war or pro-oppressed who have been fighting the neoliberal establishment, but those are the exact people attacked as "liberals" by everyone else.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

You don't need to be a liberal elitist to explain it its painfully obvious for those no matter how ridiculously obtuse you pretend to be. Plus stating Trump doing slightly better with minorities and slightly worse with whites oversimplifies the issue about racial and misogynist undertones which propelled Trumps victory.

Trump used dog whistle rhetoric to appeal to white voters that some minorities overlooked simply because Trump cloth his message with talk of defeating "globalist" and "bringing back jobs from foreigners" and "helping inner cities", etc. etc. But it was smoke and mirrors.

He made it an attempt to blame the ills of the white working class on immigrants and foreigners. Play on their fears of terrorism and crime by attacking Muslims and immigrants, used derogatory language about women who interviewed him (Megyn Kelly) and accused him of sexual assault/harassment without apologizing for it (anti-PC). Portray blacks as a monolith of people who were the only cause of issues within the justice system/police that only lived within the inner cities of America. And always using rhetoric and talking points from white supremacist/white nationalist while never directly criticizing the white establishment racial undertones for pushing him to support white resentment and racial divisiveness.

The slight uptick in minorities came from those willing to paint these issues whites strongly resonated with as "their" issues as well.

The slight drop in white voters for Trumps is likely an outlier. More-so a trade-off. While the A-typical white neoconseratives, Independent conservatives, walked away from voting for Trump he gained support in A-Typical White Supremacist/White Nationalist that GENERALLY did not/would not vote for the likes of McCain/Romney.

OR, maybe the democrats just picked the ONE person who was hated enough by Blacks, women, Latinos, Asians, and some (non-racist/sexist) Whites to tip the election to Trump

New York Times actually went to a barbershop in Milwaukee to talk to a bunch of Black dudes who said they didn't vote because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone like Hillary Clinton.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/...ighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

That's Wisconsin, a state Hillary should've wob

Why can't you guys just admit you fukked up

Folks who voted for Obama stayed their asses at home & a small percentage of them voted for Trump, but that was enough to tip it.

 

[Sadbrownsfan]

Whenever I hear the term "liberal elite" you know some weird far-right rant or conspiracy is up next. Those guys like their buzzwords.

 

[TTT]

Whenever I hear the term "liberal elite" you know some weird far-right rant or conspiracy is up next. Those guys like their buzzwords.

Elite just means people who you disagree with, Obama was supposed to be one as well. The term is used because American politics has a penchant for the blue collar "brings lunch pail to work" type of political messaging that works very well. It's like that Brexit dude who said "we have had enough of these experts", people get drawn to simple answers for complex problems hence why analogies such as the federal budget being equivalent to a household budget is used a lot. The so called liberal elites are just centrist democrats who believe in incremental steps which pisses off the more left wing part of the party. They are not all wrong, the left belief in that Democrats have bought into some consensus about economic policy and the centrists who argue that the country is not as progressive as the liberals believe. It surprises me though that a country that is as dominant in higher education as the US is can produce Sarah Palin types who actually get a strong enough following while spouting gibberish.

 

[Jimi Swagger]

The liberal class, ranging from Hollywood and the Democratic leadership to The New York Times and CNN, refuses to acknowledge that it sold the Democratic Party to corporate bidders; collaborated in the evisceration of our civil liberties; helped destroy programs such as welfare, orchestrate the job-killing North American Free Trade Agreement and Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, wage endless war, debase our public institutions including the press and build the world’s largest prison system.

“The truth is hard to find. The truth is hard to know. The truth is more important than ever,” reads a television ad for The New York Times. What the paper fails to add is that the hardest place to find the truth about the forces affecting the life of the average American and the truth about empire is in The New York Times itself. News organizations, from the Times to the tawdry forms of entertainment masquerading as news on television, have rendered most people and their concerns invisible. Liberal institutions, especially the press, function, as the journalist and author Matt Taibbi says, as “the guardians” of the neoliberal and imperial orthodoxy.

Trump barring certain newsgroup access is merited. Never understood why people were up in arms over booting NYT (a NY public relations firm), CNN and HuffPost during CPAC calling when AP and Time Magazine were invited to stay but boycotted out of "solidarity" which was not reported, only the "media ban." This should have confirmed to the public that the media is not independent and there is no objective press.

It is the job of the guardians of orthodoxy to plaster over the brutal reality and cruelty of neoliberalism and empire with a patina of civility or entertainment. They pay homage to a nonexistent democracy and nonexistent American virtues. The elites, who live in enclaves of privilege in cities such as New York, Washington and San Francisco, scold an enraged population. They tell those they dismiss as inferiors to calm down, be reasonable and patient and trust in the goodness of the old ruling class and the American system. African-Americans have heard this kind of cant preached by the white ruling class for a couple of centuries.

There should be more Nathaniel Bacon uprisings (but successful). Sadly people are too stuck in their assigned races, genders and socio-economic bubble to see the forest from the trees.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

:jordanhilarious:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Elite just means people who you disagree with, Obama was supposed to be one as well. The term is used because American politics has a penchant for the blue collar "brings lunch pail to work" type of political messaging that works very well. It's like that Brexit dude who said "we have had enough of these experts", people get drawn to simple answers for complex problems hence why analogies such as the federal budget being equivalent to a household budget is used a lot. The so called liberal elites are just centrist democrats who believe in incremental steps which pisses off the more left wing part of the party. They are not all wrong, the left belief in that Democrats have bought into some consensus about economic policy and the centrists who argue that the country is not as progressive as the liberals believe. It surprises me though that a country that is as dominant in higher education as the US is can produce Sarah Palin types who actually get a strong enough following while spouting gibberish.

they tried to paint TOM PEREZ as a "liberal elite" barely 2 weeks ago

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

OR, maybe the democrats just picked the ONE person who was hated enough by Blacks, women, Latinos, Asians, and some (non-racist/sexist) Whites to tip the election to Trump

She got 88% of the black vote which is roughly inline with the average a Democratic candidate gets.

New York Times actually went to a barbershop in Milwaukee to talk to a bunch of Black dudes who said they didn't vote because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone like Hillary Clinton.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/...ighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

That's Wisconsin, a state Hillary should've wob

The article offers a complex multitude of reasons why these PARTICULAR NUMBER of blacks in ONE STATE didn't vote whether it was because of economic woes or not trusting the candidates. Generally speaking Trumps campaign revived racial divisiveness that propelled white supremacist and nationalist who generally don't vote or not as enthusiastic about candidates.

Why can't you guys just admit you fukked up

I can admit Hillary and the Dems fukked up while also acknowledging the racial undertones and rhetoric that helped Trumps victory. Why won't you?

I never seen white nationalist so happy about a candidate in recent history.

 

[DEAD7]

:jordanhilarious:

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

they tried to paint TOM PEREZ as a "liberal elite" barely 2 weeks ago

How dare they paint the guy who REFUSED to support the ban on corporate money & lobbyists as an elitist

She got 88% of the black vote which is roughly inline with the average a Democratic candidate gets.




The article offers a complex multitude of reasons why these PARTICULAR NUMBER of blacks in ONE STATE didn't vote whether it was because of economic woes or not trusting the candidates. Generally speaking Trumps campaign revived racial divisiveness that propelled white supremacist and nationalist who generally don't vote or not as enthusiastic about candidates.




I can admit Hillary and the Dems fukked up while also acknowledging the racial undertones and rhetoric that helped Trumps victory. Why won't you?

I never seen white nationalist so happy about a candidate in recent history.

Dude, tons of Black people DIDN'T VOTE because they refused to vote for Hillary. Of course of the Black people who did vote, she'd get roughly the same percentages of Black votes that your average dem gets, because most Black people feel trapped and obligated to vote for Democrats

Those guys at the barbershop were in WISCONSIN. Hillary lost WISCONSIN. She also lost Michigan, Indiana, & Ohio, also.

If typical democratic voters (Blacks, Latinos, women) in Cleveland, Detroit, Flint, and Milwaukee came out for Hillary in any real way, she'd be president right now. Those are heavily Black cities.

When did I ever say that Trump didn't use "divisive rhetoric"?

The numbers say that that's not why he won, though.

There was no tsunami of White voters voting against Blacks/Hispanics as Donald Trump only did a little bit better with them than Mitt Romney did.

He did do a LITTLE bit better with Blacks and a LOT better with Asians & Latinos than Romney did.

He also did MUCH better with White women than Romney did.

What that says is that Hillary LOST the election because Blacks, Latinos, Asians, & Women did not show up for her. That's not Donald's racist rhetoric.

That's welfare reform, Clinton Crime Bill, Iraq War, being Wall-Street's bytch, and a ton of other reasons that minorities and women said when faced with the idea of voting for her.

 

[General Mills]

:jordanhilarious:

Im a Libertarian and this is hilarious