Lets talk about that transition from Attitude to Ruthless Aggression...

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whats weird is the slower big guys like Big show and henry and others were completely left in the dust during that era. I can't even tell you one thing big show did during that entire era.

Guys like Umaga/lesnar really left them behind for a few years.
big show fukkING SUCKS

i wish he'd leave and join tna so i wouldnt have to see his dumb ass ever again
 

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whats weird is the slower big guys like Big show and henry and others were completely left in the dust during that era. I can't even tell you one thing big show did during that entire era.

Guys like Umaga/lesnar really left them behind for a few years.

With Amando Alejandro Estrada, Umaga should have gotten that savage monster title run... would have been :lawd:

On another note am I the only one that felt that Umaga's finisher should have been the Togan Death Grip? That thumb to the throat was :comeon: status.
 

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With Amando Alejandro Estrada, Umaga should have gotten that savage monster title run... would have been :lawd:

On another note am I the only one that felt that Umaga's finisher should have been the Togan Death Grip? That thumb to the throat was :comeon: status.

I guess but realistically there were more deserving champs...the 'should have gotten that title run' is often neglecting that they were building dudes like cena and orton and mysterio at the times.

They made the right decision :ehh:
 

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These threads really define the IWC to a tee.

People talking all nostalgic and feel good-y about the ruthless agression era... I remember soooooo much complaining when it was actually taking place.

People were starting to turn on Cena during his first feud with Y2J after he got drafted to RAW in 2005.

Orton was a major flop as a face after beating ***** ******.

Ah well, I'm the same as the rest of the IWC rose tinted glasses motherfukkers :myman:
 

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These threads really define the IWC to a tee.

People talking all nostalgic and feel good-y about the ruthless agression era... I remember soooooo much complaining when it was actually taking place.

People were starting to turn on Cena during his first feud with Y2J after he got drafted to RAW in 2005.

Orton was a major flop as a face after beating ***** ******.

Ah well, I'm the same as the rest of the IWC rose tinted glasses motherfukkers :myman:


Its simple, hindsight is always 20/20. You never know how good you had it until its gone. :manny:








*wonders in 10 years from now what we'll be praising about the PG era :lupe: *
 

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These threads really define the IWC to a tee.

People talking all nostalgic and feel good-y about the ruthless agression era... I remember soooooo much complaining when it was actually taking place.

People were starting to turn on Cena during his first feud with Y2J after he got drafted to RAW in 2005.

Orton was a major flop as a face after beating ***** ******.

Ah well, I'm the same as the rest of the IWC rose tinted glasses motherfukkers :myman:

There was a lot of NOT WATCHING during this era, myself included.

I was in college during the entire era so if I saw it I saw it, if not :yeshrug:

More people watched smackdown because HHH made raw awful during the era. It actually made the evolution storyline unwatchable which is why now we talk about how great it was :ufdup: most people didn't even watch it then.

Smackdown was easily the superior show during the entire run.
 

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Its simple, hindsight is always 20/20. You never know how good you had it until its gone. :manny:








*wonders in 10 years from now what we'll be praising about the PG era :lupe: *

I guarantee we talk about how spoiled we are in terms of workrate. There are a bunch of guys who can give you a LEGIT 5 star match, and there are way more Daniel Bryans/cm punks/dean ambrose/tyson kidd/y2j/ziggler/wade/etc guys than there are Khali's, Rybacks, big shows, and lumbering fools.

even the jobbers like Zach Ryder, Jack Swagger, Sandow, dibiase, Sin Cara, 3mb are reliable hands and can sell well.

This might be the best workrate era ever.
 

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Its simple, hindsight is always 20/20. You never know how good you had it until its gone. :manny:








*wonders in 10 years from now what we'll be praising about the PG era :lupe: *

The answer to that question is simple: black excellence of Mark Henry, Based Punk, G.O.A.T. Dazzler Bryan, The Shield featuring Roman Reigns as Dum Dum Dugan, and FAAAAANNN-DAAAANNNN-GOOOOOO:blessed:
 

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That's why I nicknamed this the "I didn't watch era". This is when a lot of cats fell off. I didn't start college until 05' so I didn't fall off until around 2008. Now I feel like a dweeb that I watched the entire thing. :to:
 

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The answer to that question is simple: black excellence of Mark Henry, Based Punk, G.O.A.T. Dazzler Bryan, The Shield featuring Roman Reigns as Dum Dum Dugan, and FAAAAANNN-DAAAANNNN-GOOOOOO:blessed:


That "PG Era Appreciation Thread" is gonna do numbers...*reserves the rights to it for 2023* :smugcena:


I guarantee we talk about how spoiled we are in terms of workrate. There are a bunch of guys who can give you a LEGIT 5 star match, and there are way more Daniel Bryans/cm punks/dean ambrose/tyson kidd/y2j/ziggler/wade/etc guys than there are Khali's, Rybacks, big shows, and lumbering fools.

even the jobbers like Zach Ryder, Jack Swagger, Sandow, dibiase, Sin Cara, 3mb are reliable hands and can sell well.

This might be the best workrate era ever.


I honestly think it is. Almost everybody on the roster can work, even the performers that I don't like. Might have to nickname this the "Workrate Era". :leon:







And why am I a dweeb? I was getting some ass back then. Not a lot but enough. :mjpls:
 

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I got back into wrestling at this time after quitting in 99 a couple months after learning it was fake/WCW falling off. The era lasted from 02-05 imo, maybe 06 at the latest.

Smackdown was as good as any wrestling show imo for the first year and a half of the brand split. I stopped watching around WM20, but up until that point Raw was good also.

By the time Brock left the SD roster was raided and injured and it became a 2nd rate show again, although much of the internet has sworn it's great and "the wrestling show" for its whole existence because they give B and C grade talent more time for TV matches rather than ever run an interesting angle.

Cosign on the attitude era not lasting until 2002. The attitude era was 98-mid 99 imo. It was about unpredictability and pushing the envelope mainly, and by the time of HHH having his big title run the business wasn't that cool anymore. WWF's ratings were still high, but from mid 98-mid 99 the combined rating of WCW and WWF viewership was like a 10 or 11 on a monday night, rather than an 8.
 
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