I've unfortunately met some very racist black people in the past. Not to say there are more racist blacks than racist whites, but they definetly do exist. Hell, read a book called "Chinese girl in the Ghetto" if you believe black people cannot be racist. It's an absurd premise.
Let's talk about it: Can black people be racist?
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Well that's the problem with your thread. You never explained what we are defining as racismsaying that black people can be racist doesn't make you a c00n (necessarily). Like I said in the OP. let's be civil about this. Personally I'm surprised at the amount of people saying yes considering this is TLR.
I don't think we can solely use a white dictionary to decide what racism is, though.
If we are going to go by the English language that we all speak..... The racism is when you think your race is better than another race. There are millions of us who believe the black race is God. The black dna is the most powerful. That we are the most powerful. That we are the original and everyone else is a defect. Etc etc etc. So by definition, yes we can be racist
Now if we are going to just make up a definition, well then who the hell knows. You can make up your definition, I can make up mine, and 20 other people make up 20 other definitions. Then we'll be arguing all day
But if I think all white people should die, I think I'm better than the next man cause I'm black and he's white, and if given the chance, I'd murder white people for no reason but being white. Then hell fukking yea I'm a racist. I don't need to be president for me to be a racist. There's broke ass poor trailer trash white people with no power or teeth who are racist as fukk
Not really. The only racist black americans are just name calling really.
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It definitely would be racism but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this because there are so many concrete examples of other groups being racist. However, in my 28 years, I've only met one black person that I could even suspect of being a supremacist. Almost all of these situations about how black people can be racists are hypothetical and sort of unlikely. Like they shouldn't even draw numbers for powerball. Just keep throwing money on a pile until a black person does something racist. That's how often it happens. lol.
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Its strange how in that other thread, about Stephen Curry and colorism, you had the majority of posters downplaying the existence of colorism. But in this thread, you have a lot of posters saying that black people can be not only racist, but also racist to white people.
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That happens all the time
I'll give you an example. There is this dumbass rhetoric going through this thread where all black racism is reactionary and allowed. Okay, so let's say a black kid grows up in the burbs, goes to an all white school, gets called a ******, and gets bullied for being black. He's allowed to be racist, right? Fine, so let's reverse the roles. Some white kid goes to a school in the hood, gets called a p*ssy ass white boy on a daily basis, gets bullied, and then grows up to hate black people. Is he allowed to be racist? I mean, that's reactionary too, right? You can't have it both ways. "Black people can't be racist" is a stupid ass statement that not only isn't true, but is also low key racist against black people. It implies that black people are so infantile and powerless that "black racism" is equivalent to a child acting out.
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Exactly!That happens all the time
I'll give you an example. There is this dumbass rhetoric going through this thread where all black racism is reactionary and allowed. Okay, so let's say a black kid grows up in the burbs, goes to an all white school, gets called a ****** and gets bullied for being black. He's allowed to be racist, right? Fine, so let's reverse the roles. Some white kid goes to a school in the hood, gets called a p*ssy ass white boy on a daily basis, gets bullied, and then grows up to hate black people. Is he allowed to be racist? I mean, that's reactionary too, right? You can't have it both ways. "Black people can't be racist" is a stupid ass statement that not only isn't true, but is also low key racist against black people. It implies that black people are so infantile that "black racism" is equivalent to a child acting out.
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That white kid, who goes to a school in the hood, can then graduate, get a good job, and assimilate into a white dominate culture where he would reap the benefits of being white in a white supremacistThat happens all the time
I'll give you an example. There is this dumbass rhetoric going through this thread where all black racism is reactionary and allowed. Okay, so let's say a black kid grows up in the burbs, goes to an all white school, gets called a ******, and gets bullied for being black. He's allowed to be racist, right? Fine, so let's reverse the roles. Some white kid goes to a school in the hood, gets called a p*ssy ass white boy on a daily basis, gets bullied, and then grows up to hate black people. Is he allowed to be racist? I mean, that's reactionary too, right? You can't have it both ways. "Black people can't be racist" is a stupid ass statement that not only isn't true, but is also low key racist against black people. It implies that black people are so infantile that "black racism" is equivalent to a child acting out.
society. The black kid, from the suburbs, could take the same path and still have to deal with institutionalized racism. Theres no escape. So we can deal with these personal anecdotes and the affects that
those unfortunate experiences may have on the white kids emotional state. Or we can look at the big picture, and see what effect(s) being black will have on the black kid on an institutional level. My
point is that, while the white kid might feel bad for being bullied there are no actual effects on his status in this white world.
I feel you on other groups, especially white people. For the most part, in this world where white colonialism has had such a disproportionate affect on the way Black people are viewed, its hard to imagine Black people are capable of victimizing other folks. Still it happens, and to me at least its just typical herd mentality, us vs them mentality. Whether that be insecurity, inferiority, or just plain ol' get back as in payback.
It should be mentioned though, someone doesnt have to necessarily be a supremacist to practice racism. A white dude married to a Black woman might not be a hardcore racist, but is still capable of practicing racism IMO. Thats a result of his obvious advantages and whatever prejudices he has often more subtle than overt. He might sincerely not even be aware of his biases. I think its the same way with Black people, or anyone that can enjoy an advantage over another group of people, or instances of individuals having an advantage. But again, whatever advantages Black people may enjoy "at times", are going to be micro compared to the advantages white people enjoy on a macro level.
Again, dumbass rhetoric. Institutionalized racism does not mean that black people can't be racist - it just doesn't. Also, you know what...I wasn't even going to go there, but I'm black and I have never experienced this crippling racism that's supposedly keeping me from succeeding in life. I'm relatively young and I consider myself more successful than half of the white people I know that are in my age group and who grew up with more money. I know plenty of black people that are just like me, too. Ffs, my manager is currently black in a white company. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but the shyt is way overstated. I've never understood anyone who said that they'll "never make it in the white man's world." I just can't relate to that. I honestly think that a lot of you are just mentally weak as fukk and that's why you suck at life and stay angry
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That happens all the time
I'll give you an example. There is this dumbass rhetoric going through this thread where all black racism is reactionary and allowed. Okay, so let's say a black kid grows up in the burbs, goes to an all white school, gets called a ******, and gets bullied for being black. He's allowed to be racist, right? Fine, so let's reverse the roles. Some white kid goes to a school in the hood, gets called a p*ssy ass white boy on a daily basis, gets bullied, and then grows up to hate black people. Is he allowed to be racist? I mean, that's reactionary too, right? You can't have it both ways. "Black people can't be racist" is a stupid ass statement that not only isn't true, but is also low key racist against black people. It implies that black people are so infantile and powerless that "black racism" is equivalent to a child acting out.
This happens all the time? Really? And I'm not saying that black people can't be racist. I'm not saying anyone being racist is right to do it. I'm asking and I find it hard to believe. You just gave me a hypothetical situation that is highly unlikely. If he grew up and went to a majority black school he would eventually figure out how to navigate and probably be 'down' for the most part. White racists normally aren't around many black people at all growing up. I don't know why you feel so passionately that you need to curse or call people stupid.
Mostly in america blacks are racist because they hold on to the long years of slavery, most blacks in europe, asia, australia dont have things to be mad about and take a more cool sly approach to socializing, which isnt bad or wrong, me being a brown culture understands as hawaiians were wiped out by the whites, and nearly 80% of our culture lost. But I'd say racism is good and bad, it reminds one of hardship an a effort to go foward with minimum tolerance, but slavery is not black history, its american history, that shyt happened in america not europe, and they were sold by black rulers not caught in nets like savages.
The same things can be said about the whites who were slaves in africa:
The Barbary slave trade refers to the slave markets that flourished on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, or modern-dayMorocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and western Libya, between the 15th and 19th centuries. These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, but in reality they were mostly autonomous. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves. The European slaves were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as Irelandand Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured, to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coasttowns were abandoned[citation needed].
Ohio State University history Professor Robert Davis describes the White Slave Trade as minimized by most modern historians in his book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast and Italy, 1500–1800 (Palgrave Macmillan). Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million white Christian Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people which were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast),[1] and roughly 700 Americans were held captive in this region as slaves between 1785 and 1815.[2]
Barbary slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So to each his own, whites can be racist, blacks can be racist, asians, anybody and so fourth.
Personally I never had a issue with blacks, have tons of black friends here in hawaii and I idealize probably more blacks than I do whites or any other color in terms of celebirtys, comedians, and people like malcom x and Dr king, we grow up with hundreds of different cultures around us, it seems blacks here call each other nikkas less than any other color, dont know about the mainland where all of them seem to be more gang orientated which again isnt bad, america now is a massive country of immigrants, so its better to stay in your own click or be subjected to others culture ideal'z . But this guy was atleast honest about it:
Again, I aint got no problem, but I get what hes talking about, it gets old when one uses the race card to victimize them selves, everybody has a little bias in them, but thats nature, black ants dont roll with red ants, bullet ants dont roll with fire ants ect. It would be cool if racism wasnt around, but I guess you have to work your way around it and be cool, not some dumbass who goes around hanging on to negativity and pursue negativity as a weapon, that kinda shyt gets you killed, this shyt aint new, man kind has been killing each other for 10's of thousands of years, you just gotta go through life being respectful and appreciate what you got,, if you wanna be something, theres no way around hard work.
The same things can be said about the whites who were slaves in africa:
The Barbary slave trade refers to the slave markets that flourished on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, or modern-dayMorocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and western Libya, between the 15th and 19th centuries. These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, but in reality they were mostly autonomous. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves. The European slaves were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as Irelandand Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured, to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coasttowns were abandoned[citation needed].
Ohio State University history Professor Robert Davis describes the White Slave Trade as minimized by most modern historians in his book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast and Italy, 1500–1800 (Palgrave Macmillan). Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million white Christian Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people which were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast),[1] and roughly 700 Americans were held captive in this region as slaves between 1785 and 1815.[2]
Barbary slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So to each his own, whites can be racist, blacks can be racist, asians, anybody and so fourth.
Personally I never had a issue with blacks, have tons of black friends here in hawaii and I idealize probably more blacks than I do whites or any other color in terms of celebirtys, comedians, and people like malcom x and Dr king, we grow up with hundreds of different cultures around us, it seems blacks here call each other nikkas less than any other color, dont know about the mainland where all of them seem to be more gang orientated which again isnt bad, america now is a massive country of immigrants, so its better to stay in your own click or be subjected to others culture ideal'z . But this guy was atleast honest about it:
Again, I aint got no problem, but I get what hes talking about, it gets old when one uses the race card to victimize them selves, everybody has a little bias in them, but thats nature, black ants dont roll with red ants, bullet ants dont roll with fire ants ect. It would be cool if racism wasnt around, but I guess you have to work your way around it and be cool, not some dumbass who goes around hanging on to negativity and pursue negativity as a weapon, that kinda shyt gets you killed, this shyt aint new, man kind has been killing each other for 10's of thousands of years, you just gotta go through life being respectful and appreciate what you got,, if you wanna be something, theres no way around hard work.
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off topic but why in the hell would this happen?
Because I don't like ignorance. Yes, these things happen all the time - the two examples are parallel to each other. You're acting like a white kid being bullied in an all black school is something completely unfathomable, which is ridiculous. I remember white kids getting clowned, smacked up, hit with text books over the head in the hallway, having their lunch trays snatched, etc. on a regular basis, and my school was basically 50/50 as far as black and white people went.
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